Unless one grew up in Texas where Texas History is (or was) a required
subject in all schools at each level (elementary, junior high and high
school) it is hard to imagine the reverence with which Sam Houston is
held.  There is a certain Father Mao aspect to it.  I am sure that
many Texans are upset about attaching Houston's name to a commercial
product.  Like naming a new hybrid vehicle after George Washington.
GeorgeS

On Nov 3, 9:19 am, Mike <mjawn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "now, if you're talking about the rivendell aesthetic, that's a
> separate matter.  but, tweed and twine and shellac don't make the
> bike.  there are more important details to consider, and that's what
> separates rivendell from everyone else. "
>
> Well put Patrick. That was more the point I was trying to make.
>
> On Nov 3, 6:35 am, Patrick in VT <psh...@drm.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 2, 10:36 pm, Mike <mjawn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think. Funny how so many custom builders
> > > are trying to make bikes like the ones Rivendell has been producing
> > > for years.
>
> > actually, it makes perfect sense.  as far as I know, there aren't a
> > whole lot of lugged steel production frames available.  and what if
> > someone wanted a "roadeo" type rig before riv got around to offer such
> > a frameset?  or wants a different fit or geometry than rivendell
> > offers?  custom is just about the only alternative.  and in that case,
> > custom builders are making bikes that are intentionally un-rivish.
>
> > in any event, lots of framebuilders use lugged steel construction
> > because they share the same philosophy as Rivendell when it comes to
> > building a bike - that's not imitation.
>
> > now, if you're talking about the rivendell aesthetic, that's a
> > separate matter.  but, tweed and twine and shellac don't make the
> > bike.  there are more important details to consider, and that's what
> > separates rivendell from everyone else.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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