By the way, one thing I should have mentioned in my previous reply is that 
there is no law which says a Rivendell-style bike must be written with the 
saddle all the way back. Where your saddle is should be dictated by your 
anatomy and style of riding, not by the "geometry" of your bike.

Most people who ride enough to consider themselves "serious" cyclists should 
probably end up somewhere between the relaxed Electra cruiser position and the 
all-out racing position. If you were riding comfortably on your other bike 
before, you should give some thought to riding in the same position on the new 
bike.

In my opinion, there are no formulas for what is both an efficient and 
comfortable riding position. We're all different. All you can do is to start 
out with the conventional rules of thumb, try them out by riding both flats, 
hilly terrain and wind, and experiment until you find what works for you.

Pierre
                                          
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