Jayme, I think your summary about "many variables" is a good insight. I am 
sure the caffeinated sugary soda gave you an immediate boost. I am fairly 
certain that all the high fat food in your stomach, heavy on dairy, may 
have influenced cramps and nausea.That may not be the case on another day 
for you, and it might not be the case at all for someone else. It sounds 
like your are trying to put everything together for a eating and exercise 
program that works for you. Have you read Marl Sisson's book or website? He 
has a lot of valuable information to add to Grant's book; perhaps that 
should even be put as, Grant's book adds a lot of detailed information and 
personal insights to help guide through Sisson's voluminous writings, web 
links and comments from readers.
 
Tony

On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, Jayme Frye wrote:
>
> I wanted to chime in on this thread after a very disappointing ride this 
> weekend. I've been following the EBDJ regimen for about a month. I've 
> gotten my carb intake per day down to the 20 to 25 grams, fat intake is in 
> the 150 to 175 range and protein 55 to 75 grams per day. Net caloric intake 
> per day seems to be coming out around 1500; a 500 calorie deficit each day. 
> I have dropped 3.5 pounds so far (168.3 to 164.8) and percent body fat (as 
> registered by FitBit scale so take with grain of salt) is down to 13.5%. 
> During this time my exercise has been combination of very brisk walking 
> two to three times per week (15 min/mile pace) for 5 to 7 miles at a time. 
> Some strenuous hiking 6 to 8 miles. Sporadic HIIT sprints on the fluid 
> trainer and also sporadic strength training. Too cold here for any distance 
> outside on the bike until this weekend when it got into the 50's. So I took 
> the opportunity to pack camping gear and head out with my riding buddies 
> for 100 mile round trip S24HO. I started the day with coffee and heavy 
> cream. greek full fat yogurt with heavy cream, coconut flakes and chia 
> seeds. For the first 20 miles I felt strong and then stomach cramps and 
> nausea hit me. A burger (no bun) with bacon and cheese at lunch stop did 
> not improve the situation. At around mile 45 with 5 or so to camp we made a 
> final stop to top off water for camp and I broke down and had a Pepsi (my 
> buddies had beers). The Pepsi (possibly placebo effect) did bolster my 
> spirits for the final push to camp. 
> Dinner for me was a large egg, 4 oz pork sausage and 4 oz cheddar cheese. 
> I again cheated with a 1 cup of a buddies mac and cheese. 
> Breakfast consisted of 3 eggs (dehydrated egg crystals) four strips of 
> bacon, coffee and a tablespoon of TJ ghee. The ride back was stomach issue 
> free but I had no energy and my pace was much slower than I am used to. I 
> ultimately pulled the plug after 40 miles and called for a ride home. 
> Lots of variables here that surely have contributing effects. My main take 
> away is that this isn't some sort of formula for transforming you into an 
> elite athlete overnight and I need to adjust my expectations and probably 
> most critical adjust my calorie intake and exercise regime.   
> I plan to stick with EBDJ looking for a good balance that will work for me.
> Cheers
> Jayme
>
> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 3:42:04 PM UTC-6, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious what low carbers do for long rides? I rode 100k today on my 
>> sixth day of "eating like Grant." Id be happy to exchange ideas off list to 
>> keep this thread from getting crazy. On-list could be lively too.  I'm 
>> especially interested to hear from you, Patrick (you've probably mentioned 
>> a ketogenic diet more than most, and I also always like what you have to 
>> say) but definitely would like to hear others' experience too. The more the 
>> merrier. You can get me at:   tim....@yahoo.com 
>>
>>

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