With the Nitto big rear rack, I think my Atlantis is ready to haul anything. The last printer we had that died went to the e-recycling yard strapped to the Nitto. It's kinda funny because they have a big sign that says "Stay in your car" and they want to unload the stuff for you. Another time I volunteered to pick up something like 50 cloth grocery bags from a storage shed. With panniers on rack, it didn't take long to fill them up and I still had a lot to go. Not wanting to make 2 trips, I stacked them on top of the rack & bags, strapping down with lots of bungees. Had to be pretty careful getting on so as not to tip the bike too far. With the load that high, something was wiggling pretty good at the back. Rack? Frame? Wheel? Don't know, but it held up for the delivery.
dougP On Sep 10, 9:26 am, Dave Craig <dcr...@prescott.edu> wrote: > Speaking of a bike to get groceries on . . . > > While I don't really consider it an all-rounder, I thought I'd put a > plug in for my Surly Big Dummy as the ultimate grocery/town bike. My > touring bike(s) pale in comparison. > > Using cloth grocery bags, I regularly use the BD in an absurd "semi- > truck" configuration to do our big shopping trips every couple of > weeks (BD plus a Burley Nomad Trailer). So far, the record has been: 8 > bags of groceries, one watermelon, a 12-pack of Sierra Nevada beer and > a baguette sticking out the back of one of the panniers simply for > effect. My wife stood by offering to take some part of the load in her > medium Wald basket, but I brushed that potential contribution off as > insignificant - OK, I did concede that she could take the sandwich > bread, peaches, bananas and tomatoes - Joel's right, those become > "victims" pretty quickly. > > I've thought about putting a front rack and a basket on the front to > handle those delicate items and take-out boxes from the local Thai > place (made a mess once of my side bags with some Pad Thai juice!) and > I'll probably do that some day. The BD has some limitations (slow, > heavy and long) and it's definitely not as comfortable as my Riv's, > but it has allowed me to reduce my auto use dramatically in a town > with virtually no public transit options. > > Today, I'm taking our glass bottles to the recycling center - there's > a couple of big boxes. I've gotta tell you, it is VERY satisfying to > ride a bike to transport recyclables! > > DC > > On Sep 10, 3:05 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > Aha, but (breaking in to his Inspector Closeau voice) you 'ave not tried > > > ze > > > trash can pannier! Nozzing better. Baskets! Bah! Porteur racks! Pffft! > > > (Back > > > to his rational voice): four paper grocery sacks per load. Try *that* in > > > you > > > Wald Newsboy. > > > Very well (and amusingly) put. I will readily concede as a single > > person, my concept of carrying groceries is probably far less than > > that of many other people! > > > On Sep 9, 6:47 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:12 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> > > > wrote: > > > > I give this > > > one to Joel. No peer-reviewed research, though, Just one individual's > > > biased prejudice. > > > > > Certainly it is possible to get groceries, do errands with a tourer. > > > > I says as much. But as I say also, it is a lot easier to do errands > > > > with a top of rack basket or, as I do with my city bike, a bag on top > > > > of a porteur rack. > > > > Aha, but (breaking in to his Inspector Closeau voice) you 'ave not tried > > > ze > > > trash can pannier! Nozzing better. Baskets! Bah! Porteur racks! Pffft! > > > (Back > > > to his rational voice): four paper grocery sacks per load. Try *that* in > > > you > > > Wald Newsboy. > > > > > Bending down to pull off side mount panniers, > > > > opening up and sealing roll down panniers, loading panniers with > > > > groceries when they were really designed for carrying clothes and > > > > gears - bread - avocados and soft fruit especially are frequent > > > > victims when I use the touring bike for groceries. > > > > > As for doing centuries - I find all measured cycling a bore, and do > > > > not bother. Presumably most people who do centuries do so in a spirit > > > > of competition with like minded cyclists. Sure, you can ride 100 > > > > miles on an Atlantis. I have ridden up to 150 miles per day on my > > > > touring bike. Touring bikes are not going to do a century as fast as > > > > a bike designed for more spirited riding. > > > > I have neither toured nor done a century, so I am fully able to give a > > > biased and useless opinion: that makes sense to me. > > > > > > Really? Based on what do you claim these racks are better or not? > > > > > Let's see your peer reviewed studies. In my research I found the Nitto > > > > > rack to be just as good if not better then either of those options. > > > > > The BG I'd get but as an experienced tourer I'd never get the Tubus > > > > > racks. > > > > > So your opinion about the Nitto rack is better than mine? In mine, > > > > and other opinions I have seen on touring web sites, the Nitto is a > > > > compromised design. > > > > > I, like thousands of experienced tourers use Tubus racks. They are > > > > wonderful, solid, and work very well with both Ortlieb and Arkel > > > > mounting systems. > > > > Ah, the Tubus Fly! 12 oz for a 45 lb load. Mmmmmm ... > > > > -- > > > Patrick Moore > > > Albuquerque, NM > > > Professional Resumes. 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