Why not just call it the Atlantis 3 and make it in Taiwan? As opposed to the current Atlantis 2. Seems a shame to not have any 26 inch wheeled bikes available in the line. And why spend all this time developing a reputation around a name and then just abandon it? Especially when it's the least cutesy riv name! (couldn't resist.)
On Aug 20, 6:47 pm, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote: > If the Atlantis were made in Taiwan, perhaps its lugs would be plainer > and its fork bend would not be as lovely and there might be other > things that make it less wonderful than the Toyo Atlantis, and as such, > its price would be lower, ya' know, priced like the Hillborne. It would > be a great deal and could still have the touring and all/rounder > qualities that make the bike the Atlantis, and therefore, it should > still carry the legendary name. > > Sure, people could say, "well, mine is a Japanese Atlantis from 2007", > and those would be worth more than 2011 Atlantises, but I wouldn't have > a problem with that while riding my 2011 Atlantis across the country. > > I think it would be great if Rivendell could offer an all-rounder with > all the function of the Atlantis, and therefore named the Atlantis, and > have it be less expensive. > > On Aug 20, 2009, at 2:24 PM, cm wrote: > > > > > > > I think just moving the production to Taiwan creates a few issues-- > > do you charge the same price? Do you charge less? How would your > > existing customers feel who paid more? Or how many $2000 Taiwanese > > frames could you sell. I also see issues with having them made in the > > US. It is tough to be the middleman in a venture like that; everyone > > still needs to make a profit and that can make prices scary-high very > > fast. > > I think the first question is whether or not being made in Japan is an > > inherent part of the bike being an Atlantis (though I think some were > > made in WI). If GP feels like it ain't an Atlantis if it is made in > > Taiwan, then I think it is a good decision to kill it. I think part of > > the issue is that Toyo has been so closely tied to the Atlantis > > story-- everything you read about it mentions Toyo (the small > > frameshop, with only X numbers of builders). Buying an Atlantis seems > > like you are buying their craft. The Taiwanese frames seem to lack > > that-- we are not sold the builder as part of the deal. Not much about > > Maxway (is that their name?) on the Riv site, yet lots of their bikes > > come from there. I think that there must be a Toyo in Taiwan, and if > > there isnt, isnt this a great reason to start one? Let us know the > > Taiwan builders, sell us on THEIR craft, and keep making the Atlantis. > > Quality is product of care, effort, practice, and attention to > > detail, not of nationality. > > > Just a thought. > > > Cheers! > > cm --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
