If the Atlantis were made in Taiwan, perhaps its lugs would be plainer and its fork bend would not be as lovely and there might be other things that make it less wonderful than the Toyo Atlantis, and as such, its price would be lower, ya' know, priced like the Hillborne. It would be a great deal and could still have the touring and all/rounder qualities that make the bike the Atlantis, and therefore, it should still carry the legendary name.
Sure, people could say, "well, mine is a Japanese Atlantis from 2007", and those would be worth more than 2011 Atlantises, but I wouldn't have a problem with that while riding my 2011 Atlantis across the country. I think it would be great if Rivendell could offer an all-rounder with all the function of the Atlantis, and therefore named the Atlantis, and have it be less expensive. On Aug 20, 2009, at 2:24 PM, cm wrote: > > I think just moving the production to Taiwan creates a few issues-- > do you charge the same price? Do you charge less? How would your > existing customers feel who paid more? Or how many $2000 Taiwanese > frames could you sell. I also see issues with having them made in the > US. It is tough to be the middleman in a venture like that; everyone > still needs to make a profit and that can make prices scary-high very > fast. > I think the first question is whether or not being made in Japan is an > inherent part of the bike being an Atlantis (though I think some were > made in WI). If GP feels like it ain't an Atlantis if it is made in > Taiwan, then I think it is a good decision to kill it. I think part of > the issue is that Toyo has been so closely tied to the Atlantis > story-- everything you read about it mentions Toyo (the small > frameshop, with only X numbers of builders). Buying an Atlantis seems > like you are buying their craft. The Taiwanese frames seem to lack > that-- we are not sold the builder as part of the deal. Not much about > Maxway (is that their name?) on the Riv site, yet lots of their bikes > come from there. I think that there must be a Toyo in Taiwan, and if > there isnt, isnt this a great reason to start one? Let us know the > Taiwan builders, sell us on THEIR craft, and keep making the Atlantis. > Quality is product of care, effort, practice, and attention to > detail, not of nationality. > > Just a thought. > > Cheers! > cm > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
