Hi, Jim--the Heron Road was based on Riv's. Road standard model, and takes 
short reach brakes.  The Rambouillet was based on their LongLow model, and was 
built around the then new longer reach sidepulls.  The Rambouillet's angles are 
1/2 a degree or so slacker, and its chainstays and wheelbase are a bit longer.  
They are both great riding, great handling bikes, comfortable and fun for 
twenty miles or 100, but the Rambouillet is a tick more subdued, slightly more 
stable handling, perhaps a slightly more comfortable and relaxed ride. (same 
tires on both, and very similar setup, but the Rambouillet has fenders)  
 
For a spirited club ride, I'd likely take the Heron.   For a relaxed country 
ramble, or a supported multi-day ride, the Rambouillet.  Though the line 
between my "spirited," and my "ramble," pace at this point probably makes the 
distinction pretty pointless.  B-)
 
Steve      
 
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[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of James Dinneen
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
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I have a Heron Road. I would be interested if you could elaborate a little on 
the comparison of the Heron and the Rambouillet   Jim D. (Massachusetts)

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From: Frederick, Steve <frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:42 AM


Yah, I own both a Heron Road and a Rambouillet, and they have quite different
personalities.  Both excellent bikes, for sure!

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Sent: Sunday,

 January 18, 2009 1:42 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates



No actually. The Rambouillet has a longer rear-center, for one thing.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris <fourf...@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 17, 2009 2:55 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates
>
>
>Wasn't that called the Rambouillet?
>
>On Jan 17, 1:23 pm, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Patrick, I agree. I think the Rivendell offerings are amazing, but
nothing is perfect. If it were possible, I would love if Rivendell added just
one more bike to their line-up, basically one like the Heron road, with that
sport geometry you mention, and nice understated looks and a resonably low cost.
Lugged,

 maybe Taiwan, single-color and Heron road type geometry. But still with
mini-rack braze-ons!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>>
>>






     








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