I occasionally contemplate that option... not quite able to pull it off though :-)
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:06 PM, James Dinneen <jfxdinn...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I doubt that there are many "sane" people on this list with only one, good > all round bike. It may be another question as to how many "sane" people, > looking for just one all round bike Grant would reach looking for a larger > market, beyond his niche. Jim D. > > --- On *Sun, 1/18/09, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net>* wrote: > > From: James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 2:19 PM > > > My experience with the Ram and AHH is that they provide the same amazingly > wonderful riding experience. I can't tell a difference on roads. And for me, > it's a different experience than the RB-2 > which I wouldn't take on a > super-long ride, but I definitely climb a 2-mile hill in significantly less > time > on the RB-2 than I do on the other two. > I'm guessing that a Heron Road or a mid-90's Rivendell Road standard > would be on the spectrum between RB-2 and Ram. I've heard others on this > list say that it is certainly not the same bike as the Ram. So making a > modest, > affordable, short-reach-brake Taiwan version of a bike with Heron road > geometry > (and mini-rack braze-ons) is not a re-introduction of the Ram. > > But now that I read my little story above about being faster on the climb on > the RB-2, I'm starting to see that the market for such a bike might be too > small, as people have said. Once in a while, I care about being 90 seconds > faster on that hill, and it's fun to see how the Bridgestone influences > that. I'm a big enough bike nut that I keep several bikes around just for > such little games. But other people > are more sane and just want a good > "road bike", not many variations all around the house. If they are > bent towards caring about the 90 seconds faster on the hill, and apparently > many > people are, then it seems that many of them are headed towards a carbon fiber > Specialized or whatever. And it's hard to compete with that. For their > intended purposes, those bikes are really good. > > -Jim W. > > -----Original Message----- > >From: MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> > >Sent: Jan 18, 2009 10:43 AM > >To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> > >Cc: Michael Hechmer <mhech...@gmail.com> > >Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates > > > > > >Those of us, like myself, who can afford more than one bike, often > >prefer to have bikes optimized around specific kinds of riding. In > >that case a "go fast" road bike - one designed for centuries > or > >shorter rides without carrying a lot of gear, and with nimble road > >manners makes a lot of sense. > > > >I still have and ride a custom 1988 ,full campy, tubular tired, > >Marinoni stage racing bike. This bike is built out of standard guage > >Columbus tubing and sports a World Championship heritage. I also have > >a Ram, outfitted with RP tires, Honjo fenders, and a small Carradice > >bag. Theses bike have amazingly similar rides. The Ram is a little > >more stable, less quick handling, but it climbs, descends and responds > >much like the Marinoni. So I'm skeptical of the argument that > >standard guage bikes plane better than OS tubing ones. Maybe for a > >145 lb rider, but not for a 175 lb rider. I have a standard guage > >early Trek which planes nicely too, as does my OS Ebisu All Purpose. > >My winter and off road bike - a Soma Dble X definitely bogs down going > >uphill. > Whatever causes a bike frame to respond to rider input is > >something other than just tubing dimension. I suspect overly stiff > >tubes as the culprit. > > > >Bottom line, the Ram, with OS tubing and nimble geometry serves a > >unique and joyful purpose. I hope Grant decides to bring it back so > >more people can discover what fun it is to ride this bike. > > > >On Jan 18, 12:10 pm, "Lisa -S.H." <harmo...@fairpoint.net> > wrote: > >> I don't think it's accurate or fair to categorize those who > ride 25c > >> tires and like to (or would like to) ride fast(er) as either a > "roadie" > >> or a "weight weenie". Heck, I found my original 38c tires > were > >> overkill for me, and I like to ride both slow AND fast. (though > >> admittedly my 'fast' is probably equivalent to most other > people's > >> 'slow') ;) > >> Just my two > cents. > >> Lisa > >> > > > > > > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
