Ah yes. Larger sizes. See, one thing is that my 62 cm RB-2 is a bit too small for me, but I find ways to tolerate that. What would be fun is a 65 cm RivB-1. That would be awesome!
-Jim -----Original Message----- >From: Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> >Sent: Jan 18, 2009 11:26 AM >To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates > > >I think that it's not so much a matter of frame weight, stiffness, or >tire size/brake reach so much as having a bike optimized for road >riding. The RB-1 demonstrates (and I'm going on hearsay here, because >I've never ridden one myself) that Grant can design a bike optimized >for road riding that seems to be pretty uniformly perceived as faster, >more "sporty" on decent roads with ultralight loads than the current >crop of Riv bikes which are optimized for touring/load carrying, mixed- >terrain, and wide tires. There is debate as to whether or not the Ram/ >Rom replicates this effect. Some people would appreciate a riv bike >that got back to Grant's RB-1 roots, although Jim makes the point that >such a bike would be competing which many more mainstream offerings >and as such is harder to justify from a market perspective. So it's >really a matter of how Grant/Riv identify their current market. > >As for I, I guess I'm one of those "reformed hipsters" (although I >originally got into cycling through touring and long rides) that is >now looking for more practical steeds. I would have seriously >considered something like the Ram/Rom a year ago had Riv still been >making it, although its vertical dropouts would have been a drawback >for me. While I'm a reformed hipsters I still like riding fixed gear >and singlespeed. And old rb-1 would have been similarly great, but >they're pretty hard to come by these days, especially in larger sizes >that I could use. What did i get? I bought a Salsa Casseroll, which >has built up into a great, sporty fixed gear road bike for 700x28 >(true) tires with great geometry. > > > >On Jan 18, 10:43 am, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Those of us, like myself, who can afford more than one bike, often >> prefer to have bikes optimized around specific kinds of riding. In >> that case a "go fast" road bike - one designed for centuries or >> shorter rides without carrying a lot of gear, and with nimble road >> manners makes a lot of sense. >> >> I still have and ride a custom 1988 ,full campy, tubular tired, >> Marinoni stage racing bike. This bike is built out of standard guage >> Columbus tubing and sports a World Championship heritage. I also have >> a Ram, outfitted with RP tires, Honjo fenders, and a small Carradice >> bag. Theses bike have amazingly similar rides. The Ram is a little >> more stable, less quick handling, but it climbs, descends and responds >> much like the Marinoni. So I'm skeptical of the argument that >> standard guage bikes plane better than OS tubing ones. Maybe for a >> 145 lb rider, but not for a 175 lb rider. I have a standard guage >> early Trek which planes nicely too, as does my OS Ebisu All Purpose. >> My winter and off road bike - a Soma Dble X definitely bogs down going >> uphill. Whatever causes a bike frame to respond to rider input is >> something other than just tubing dimension. I suspect overly stiff >> tubes as the culprit. >> >> Bottom line, the Ram, with OS tubing and nimble geometry serves a >> unique and joyful purpose. I hope Grant decides to bring it back so >> more people can discover what fun it is to ride this bike. >> >> On Jan 18, 12:10 pm, "Lisa -S.H." <harmo...@fairpoint.net> wrote: >> >> > I don't think it's accurate or fair to categorize those who ride 25c >> > tires and like to (or would like to) ride fast(er) as either a "roadie" >> > or a "weight weenie". Heck, I found my original 38c tires were >> > overkill for me, and I like to ride both slow AND fast. (though >> > admittedly my 'fast' is probably equivalent to most other people's >> > 'slow') ;) >> > Just my two cents. >> > Lisa >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
