> They went with 130 because the hub required more spacing and more
> dish.  The 8 speed hub is bigger to accomodate the extra cog.  The 9
> speed spacing got tighter but still used the same hub as a 7 speed.

Correction:  that should have said "8":

The 9 speed spacing got tighter but still used the same hub as a 8
speed.

Sorry.   -chris


On Dec 4, 10:25 am, tallsteelbikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 4:36 pm, "PATRICK MOORE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > But 8 sp was indeed slightly closer spaced than 7 -- which is why,
> > presumably, they went with 130 instead of 126 OL spacing.
>
> They went with 130 because the hub required more spacing and more
> dish.  The 8 speed hub is bigger to accomodate the extra cog.  The 9
> speed spacing got tighter but still used the same hub as a 7 speed.
>
> Bottom line:  use a 7 speed hub for minumum dish.  8/9 speed hubs with
> always increase dishing over 7 speed hubs.  If you want more speeds,
> put 9 speed cogs on a 7 speed freehub and leave one cog off for a
> hybrid 8speed system on a 7 speed hub...
>
> -Chris
>
> tallsteelbikes.googlepages.com
>
> On Dec 3, 4:36 pm, "PATRICK MOORE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Just to toss a (rusty) wrench into Steve's comments (because he's
> > recently been mean to me, offlist) I must add that one really doesn't
> > need multiple cogs at all; or if you have  a second (you wimp, you)
> > just screw it onto the other side of the hub like the rest of us. No
> > dish, no mess, no worries.
>
> > But 8 sp was indeed slightly closer spaced than 7 -- which is why,
> > presumably, they went with 130 instead of 126 OL spacing.
>
> > On 12/3/08, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 11:25 -0800, tallsteelbikes wrote:
> > >> The cog spacing got tighter when they went from 6 to 7 not from 7 to 8
> > >> speed.
>
> > > According to the table on Sheldon's site
> > >http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html
> > > both sprocket thickness and spacer thickness changed between Shimano
> > > Hyperglide 7 and Shimano 8.  The 7spd is 1.85mm sprocket thickness,
> > > 3.15mm spacer thickness, and the 8 is 1.8mm sprocket thickness and 3.0mm
> > > spacer thickness.  Center to center spacing went from 5.0mm for 7 spd
> > > Hyperglide to 4.8mm for 8spd.
>
> > >> So if you want a stronger wheel with less dish go with 7 speeds or
> > >> less on a 7 speed freehub cassette system or a 5/6/7 speed freewheel
> > >> system.
>
> > > Or, as others have suggested, you can use an asymmetric rim.
>
> > >> Who really needs or wants 8/9/10 speeds
>
> > > For some applications the closer spacing of gears (not sprockets) gives
> > > you some advantages.  To me those advantages primarily apply to lightly
> > > loaded bikes.  When I pack on some cargo, I find I lose momentum quickly
> > > enough that the 1-tooth gear changes that seem so nice and handy on an
> > > unloaded bike become insignificant piddling hardly worth shifting for.
>
> > >>  and weaker wheels with more cost and maintenance anyway?
>
> > > Not a given, as far as I'm concerned.  Maintenance is no different;
> > > chain and sprocket life seem to be the same.
>
> > >>   Only reason is if you are stuck on STI
> > >> or just need the latest gadgets to keep up with the Jones'.
>
> > > And we haven't even mentioned the 2009 Campagnolo Super Record group --
> > > the one they should have called the Spinal Tap Gruppo (because it goes
> > > to 11).  I think bikesnobnyc's take on that fully represents my
> > > position.
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