The cog spacing got tighter when they went from 6 to 7 not from 7 to 8
speed.  That is why you need a spacer with the 7 speed cassette on the
8 speed hub.  When they went from 8 to 9 they made the cog spacing
even tighter.  That is why 8 and 9 speed use the same hub body.

So if you want a stronger wheel with less dish go with 7 speeds or
less on a 7 speed freehub cassette system or a 5/6/7 speed freewheel
system.

Who really needs or wants 8/9/10 speeds and weaker wheels with more
cost and maintenance anyway?  Only reason is if you are stuck on STI
or just need the latest gadgets to keep up with the Jones'.

Cheers,  Chris

tallsteelbikes.googlepages.com


On Dec 2, 8:48 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Garth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >   Do I regret going with freewheels?  Sometimes I was worried, like
> > when they were becoming very scarce. But, it was just fear.... and
> > there are thousands of people like me that have no desire or need for
> > 8,9 or 10 speed sprockets. I also think about if I would have gone
> > with an 8 speed cassette at the time I made my decision, I would be no
> > better off. Look at the selection of 8 speed ones now..... they are
> > becoming less available, and the ones that are available are lower end
> > ones. Then, look at the gear selections ..... fewer and fewer
> > choices.  I have no use for 11 or 12 tooth sprockets.... so try to
> > find any cassette without one of those. Sure, Harris Cycles makes some
> > custom ones, but they can be over a hundred dollars for the better
> > ones. So, when I chose my wheels..... it was a 50/50 deal on what to
> > do.  It's no different today.... as I have no desire for the  9 and 10
> > speed spockets. If I need some more wheels I'd still likely get
> > another 135mm 7speed Phil hub.
>
> Leaving custom cassettes aside for the moment, pretty much what they  
> did when they went from 7 to 8 was space the sprockets closer together  
> and add an 11 or 12 tooth sprocket.  Many of the standard 7s had 13T  
> as the smallest sprocket, and all but one of the standard 8s had  
> either an 11 or a 12T as the smallest.
>
> This can easily produce a situation where less (i.e., fewer sprockets)  
> is clearly more.  With a 7spd cassette mounted on a 135mm cassette hub  
> (7spd cassettes now seem to come with the spacer you need to put  
> behind the cassette to make this work) I find I'm able to use all 7  
> sprockets on the big ring without suffering chain line problems.  Add  
> an outer 11 or 12 to the mix, and now you can't get to the innermost  
> big sprocket without running into chain line issues; in return for  
> this, you get a high gear that's usually too high to use.  Bottom  
> line: add 1, lose the use of 2!
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