From: "Arndt Roger Schneider" <arndt.ro...@addcom.de>
Overall impression:
The software was designed for windows; more or less
following the windows hci-guidelines,
The windows version is resonable good.
This is the most important thing, because most users use Windows. Those who
have other preferences are not forced to choose Windows, so it's their
choice, and if the interface doesn't look so nice, that's it.
Back to rantingrick 21st century toolkit/framwork:
Let's have a look at the numbers:
Worlwide pc market are 300 Million pcs per year,
this number includes desktops(2/3) and servers(1/3).
Your gui app is not relevant on servers.
Quite a good deal of the remaining pc's are sold in
countries with rampant ilict software copies;
Since there are no software cost for these copies
Python is an open source software and the programmers that use Python might
also prefer to offer open source software for free so this is not important.
And "not legal" is not a very correct term, because somebody from Iran or
North Corea must respect the laws from his/her country and in her/his
country some things might not be forbidden by law, so it may be perfectly
legal.
~ 100 Million potential new desktop users for you.
Apple's projection for the ipad in 2011 are 65 Million pieces,
iphone and ipod touch will be roughly the same.
130 Million ios pieces.
The android market is still unclear, but I do suppose
it will rival ios, lets say 100 Million in 2011.
~ 100 Million new android users for you.
Microsoft mobile and blueberry are wildcards;
no serious forecast is possible for these devices.
Lets assume:
~ 50 Million blueberry, windows mobile.
Total is: 380 Million potential new user for your application.
wxWidgets: 36000000 LOC, python: 1400000 LOC
--these are very old numbers, but from the same time period.
This is a bad comparison because the programs targetted to the mobile phones
are in most cases very different than the programs that need to be used on
the desktop.
Do you want to say that WxPython is not good just because it doesn't work
well on mobile phones?
Those numbers show that only the mobile phones are important, because there
are more mobile phones than computers.
Well, Python needs a better GUI lib for using them on desktop computers, not
on mobile phones.
The desktop pc market is in decline; there is
however a shift toward pc-servers, instead.
What do you mean by declining? Are there fewer desktop PCs today than a year
ago?
Looking into wxWidgets:
Interactivity: keyboard focus, shortcuts, function keys,
active foreground, active background are obsolete.
hovering tooltips obsolete, status bar to large, obsolete.
scrolled dialogs, obsolete. OK, Cancel, Retry, Abort
buttons, obsolete, file dialogs obsolete, old style printing
obsolete, drag-and-drop obsolete...
Who says that they are obsolete?
A good GUI interface should offer keyboard accessibility. Otherwise it is
broken.
Summary wxWidgets:
wxWidgets is large scale C++ library from the 20th century,
solemnly dedicated toward desktop computers.
Yes, Python should promote a good GUI lib for desktop computers, and not a
poor GUI lib for desktop computers that might also work on other platforms.
wxWidgets is not suitable for a modern type
GUI ad thus clearly not the toolkit/framework
of the 21st century.
Why do you think that everything what's modern is better?
Octavian
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