On Jan 18, 4:13 am, rantingrick <rantingr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 17, 4:47 pm, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote: > > > On 1/16/2011 11:20 PM, rantingrick wrote: > > > > Ok, try this... > > > > http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/screenshots/index.php > > > http://www.sensi.org/~ak/pyslsk/pyslsk6.png > > > http://www.wxwidgets.org/about/screensh.htm > > > Ok, wxwidgets can look at least as good as tk. Agreed that wxpython > > might instead link to the excellent wxwidgets page. > > > -- > > Terry Jan Reedy > > Thanks for being honest. We need more people acting in this manner and > just think of the progress we could make, it would wonderful! > > You know we Python programmers are professional debaters. This has > been my take on the Python community. However without the virtues of > compromise and community spirit all we are going to do is fight like > cats and dogs forever to the very detriment of the very community we > wish to muster > > We need to look at these problems from a community perspective and > tone down the rhetoric. The layer of thick sarcasm that exists is so > viscous and putrid that any semblance of civility is completely > impervious to it's gelatinous all encompassing mass. We need to get > more folks involved in the decision process. We need more community > discussion and less community corruption. Currently we have a small > subset of the community making a large proportion of the decisions. We > did have a monarchy ruled by our beloved dictator however it has > degenerated into a banana republic! We need democracy and we need it > now!
Lehman Beladys entropy law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehman%27s_laws_of_software_evolution says The quality of ... systems will decline unless they are rigorously maintained and adapted to operational environment changes. Just look at emacs --once upon a time the best editor for alpha geeks, today unable to get rid of 40 years of cruft. Guido's 'benevolent dictatorship' has so far kept python the exception because - he give powerful batteries to start with - does not introduce junk - is not afraid of backward incompatibility for the sake of clarity and cleanliness (python3) Gui (and web) frameworks are two of his more visible failures -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list