On 9 February 2010 17:53, Michael DeHaan <mich...@reductivelabs.com> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Paul Nasrat <pnas...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> On 9 February 2010 17:39, R.I.Pienaar <r...@devco.net> wrote: >>> hello, >>> >>> ----- "Michael DeHaan" <mich...@reductivelabs.com> wrote: >>> >>>> > I've written an application, which aims to solve all of the missing >>>> peaces >>>> > around puppet - http://theforeman.org >>>> >>>> Ohad, as you've said "I've written an application, which aims to >>>> solve all of the missing peaces around puppet". Obviously you've done a >>>> lot of work here, but I need to communicate something from a >>>> community perspective -- the proper place to fix missing pieces in Puppet >>>> is by >>>> contributing to Puppet -- our vision is to have no such "missing >>>> pieces". Hence things done outside of core tend to fragment the >>>> userbase and make things harder to install/use/manage/maintain. The >>>> future of this workflow tool is going to be Puppet's Dashboard. >>>> Where there are barriers to doing this, we will remove them. >>> >>> As a non affiliated community member who spend a lot of my time on Puppet I >>> think this is a particularly unfriendly and in fact alarming statement for >>> someone from RL to make. >>> >> >> I agree, I'm sure Michael didn't mean to be offensive hear, but it >> comes off as arrogant. The community exists around puppet and there >> should be room for innovation within it. We want to encourage tool >> writing systems administration, not a centralized single company based >> environment. Obviously Reductive needs to make money and keep going >> but dismissing the work of active and contributing members of the >> community and stating it's from "a community perspective" feels >> disingenuous. I personally don't think it's a good statement of the >> community perspective. >> >> Paul >> > > Paul -- I'm as community oriented as you'll get.
Show don't tell, I'm aware of your work on other projects. But being part of the community around puppet is earned not transitioned with a role. Whilst I think you're background and skills make you > Moving forward, our efforts should be in contributing around one > common tool that everyone in our community can contribute to. So you don't believe an ecosystem of tools can exist around puppet and facter? You believe that one solution fits all? This really is coming across in a light I don't think you intend. > Unfortunately due to some IP issues we can't do this around Foreman -- > and /we/ can't contribute to it. I'm aware of that. What I'm objecting to is a myopic vision that there can't be an ecosystem. Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
