On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Paul Nasrat <pnas...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On 9 February 2010 17:39, R.I.Pienaar <r...@devco.net> wrote: >> hello, >> >> ----- "Michael DeHaan" <mich...@reductivelabs.com> wrote: >> >>> > I've written an application, which aims to solve all of the missing >>> peaces >>> > around puppet - http://theforeman.org >>> >>> Ohad, as you've said "I've written an application, which aims to >>> solve all of the missing peaces around puppet". Obviously you've done a >>> lot of work here, but I need to communicate something from a >>> community perspective -- the proper place to fix missing pieces in Puppet >>> is by >>> contributing to Puppet -- our vision is to have no such "missing >>> pieces". Hence things done outside of core tend to fragment the >>> userbase and make things harder to install/use/manage/maintain. The >>> future of this workflow tool is going to be Puppet's Dashboard. >>> Where there are barriers to doing this, we will remove them. >> >> As a non affiliated community member who spend a lot of my time on Puppet I >> think this is a particularly unfriendly and in fact alarming statement for >> someone from RL to make. >> > > I agree, I'm sure Michael didn't mean to be offensive hear, but it > comes off as arrogant. The community exists around puppet and there > should be room for innovation within it. We want to encourage tool > writing systems administration, not a centralized single company based > environment. Obviously Reductive needs to make money and keep going > but dismissing the work of active and contributing members of the > community and stating it's from "a community perspective" feels > disingenuous. I personally don't think it's a good statement of the > community perspective. > > Paul >
Paul -- I'm as community oriented as you'll get. Moving forward, our efforts should be in contributing around one common tool that everyone in our community can contribute to. Unfortunately due to some IP issues we can't do this around Foreman -- and /we/ can't contribute to it. Similarly, since we are looking at doing some very powerful and tightly coupled features in Dashboard, it is non-strategic to be avertising that users should be investing in Foreman. Features that go into Foreman are lost to Puppet... Rather than look at this as dismissive, I think we need to look at this as a chance to rally our efforts. Ohad is enormously helpful here and I don't want to take away from his contributions. ---Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
