On 9 February 2010 17:39, R.I.Pienaar <r...@devco.net> wrote:
> hello,
>
> ----- "Michael DeHaan" <mich...@reductivelabs.com> wrote:
>
>> > I've written an application, which aims to solve all of the missing
>> peaces
>> > around puppet - http://theforeman.org
>>
>> Ohad, as you've said "I've written an application, which aims to
>> solve all of the missing peaces around puppet".   Obviously you've done a
>> lot of work here, but I need to communicate something from a
>> community perspective -- the proper place to fix missing pieces in Puppet is 
>> by
>> contributing to Puppet -- our vision is to have no such "missing
>> pieces".   Hence things done outside of core tend to fragment the
>> userbase and make things harder to install/use/manage/maintain.   The
>> future of this workflow tool is going to be Puppet's Dashboard.
>> Where there are barriers to doing this, we will remove them.
>
> As a non affiliated community member who spend a lot of my time on Puppet I 
> think this is a particularly unfriendly and in fact alarming statement for 
> someone from RL to make.
>

I agree, I'm sure Michael didn't mean to be offensive hear, but it
comes off as arrogant. The community exists around puppet and there
should be room for innovation within it. We want to encourage tool
writing systems administration, not a centralized single company based
environment. Obviously Reductive needs to make money and keep going
but dismissing the work of active and contributing members of the
community and stating it's from "a community perspective" feels
disingenuous. I personally don't think it's a good statement of the
community perspective.

Paul

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