On Apr 21, 2009, at 2:19 AM, Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote: > > 2009/4/6 Mike Renfro <ren...@tntech.edu>: > >> I'd normally expect that to work, but I just have puppet keep cron >> running, and have a periodic cron job that checks if puppet has died, >> and if so, restarts it: > > Interesting, but why would you expect Puppet to die? Would you expect > Apache, Nginx or worse MySQL to die randomly like this? > > I'm a Puppet user since nearly two years now, and in the big picture > of my web servers I find that puppetd is not the most reliable piece > of software. It dies every day, and my colleagues complain about this > regularly because their installed packages are not uptodate as they > expect. So I have to start it again and again on all machines. Is > Puppetd dying because of network problems? I believe so, but I think > it should be fixed instead of finding creative ways to keep puppetd > running, especially since I request it to run every 5 minutes as a > daemon.
I agree, these problems shouldn't exist, and when they do they should be fixed. The problem is that we can't seem to find anyone who has the time or interest in debugging the problem, and we not-too-surprisingly can't reproduce it ourselves. Everyone who has the problem just shrugs and switches to cron, and pretty much stops responding to our emails asking for help fixing the problem. What we really need is someone who's having these problems and is willing to spend some time investigating. I expect it's not that complicated, it just needs to be hunted down. And, for the record, I think this got a lot better in 0.24.8 (or maybe 0.24.7?). We found a few cases where errors could propagate far enough to kill the client, and I think we've eradicated nearly all of them. > Is anyone using puppetd in a WAN setup with default Webrick server > successfully? Shall I switch the HTTP server to Mongrel to gain > reliability? I'll test this setup. But if puppetd fails on the > client side, I'm not certain that changing the server's HTTP server > would actually prevent the client to fail at all... We need to add logs or something to clarify this, but you should *definitely* switch away from Webrick if you're having any kind of performance or reliability problems. Or if you're not. -- Death and taxes are inevitable; at least death doesn't get worse every year. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Luke Kanies | http://reductivelabs.com | http://madstop.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
