OK thanks - apologies didn't see the additional email addresses. I'll retry
the latest version and see how it goes.
Claire

On 23 February 2016 at 17:49, Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> wrote:

> Claire,
>
> You should reply to the list so that you avail yourself of the list's
> collective wisdom.
>
> I would go ahead and use the latest version even though it has this scary
> message. IIRC, the reason that the scary message is not shown in the
> November 2015 version is just that they added it since then.
>
> Unfortunately (I guess) there is no official PSPP for Windows. Official
> PSPP releases are as (uncompiled) software and the developers all use Linux
> (AFAIK) and even the windows version is (cross)compiled on Linux. So, what
> happens is that the bright guy (Harry Thijssen) who controls
> pspp.awardspace.com makes Windows versions of PSPP available
> periodically.  He always uses the latest version and so Windows users see
> both the latest features and bug fixes, but also sometimes new bugs (or new
> bugs that occur only in Windows).
>
> I don't know if that scary message is conveying the right message. PSPP
> does have a set of automated regression tests... I don't know if they are
> run (Harry?) but those wouldn't necessarily catch all bugs and it is true
> that no human testing occurs before the new version is made available
> (unless Harry does some informal testing himself).  What would be ideal, in
> my opinion, would be if some Windows users took it upon themselves to vet
> each version as Harry creates it so that we had a process to remove this
> (true) message about "not tested" from a release.  So far, that effort has
> not congealed.
>
> -Alan
>
>
>
> On 2/23/2016 9:34 AM, Claire de Koker wrote:
>
> Hi Alan
>
> thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I just tried the method of
> 'enter location' as you explained and it worked! As long as I can save in
> some way and can find saved files then thats fine - I've only got
> (hopefully) a small amount of stats to do.
>
> One of the reasons I uninstalled the latest version is that it says
> "unreleased test software, not for production use" at the very top bar -
> I'm not sure if this means anything or not but the older version I
> downloaded doesnt have anything like that at the top. I'm not incredibly
> knowledgable in IT terms so this is perhaps a red herring!
>
> Thanks for your support and speedy reply!
>
> Claire
>
> On 23 February 2016 at 17:23, Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> wrote:
>
>> Claire,
>>
>> When you when say:
>>
>> I try to save the data file under 'PSPP' it comes up with an error
>> message saying 'permission denied'
>>
>>
>> that sounds like you are trying to save the files under c:\program
>> files\pspp and that isn't a good place to save files and Windows will
>> prevent you from doing so unless you are an administrator.  Try saving in
>> your "My Documents" folder.
>>
>> But the other possibility is that this is a bug that the developers have
>> been working on. I'm sorry I don't recall what work-around exists, but
>> hopefully one of them will reply. I think the bug was related to having
>> either spaces or non-ASCII characters in the path and so you might try
>> saving in a place that doesn't have those problems (e.g., "c:\pspp_files"
>> which you would need to have administrator's rights, or possible to a thumb
>> drive mounted as "E:\").
>>
>> About the folders not being seen, I don't know how the Windows version of
>> PSPP picks up folders but I have the same problem.  There is a slightly
>> awkward work-around (maybe someone can supply a better one).  On my version
>> of PSPP I have a choice on the left sidebar of the "Open" dialog called
>> "Enter Location" which can open any location.  So, you just need to enter
>> the location for One Drive. Here's my shortcut for figuring out what the
>> destination is:  I go to Windows explorer (i.e., the way you normally look
>> at files in Windows) and open the drive so I can see the files.  Then I
>> click in the address bar at the top. Before I click into the bar, it says
>> something like "(folder icon) > amead >     Google Drive" but after you
>> click there, the location (e.g., "C:\Users\amead\Google Drive") is
>> displayed and can be copied-and-pasted it into the "Enter Location" field
>> in PSPP. In this way, I can open my Google Drive, even though it's not
>> shown initially.
>>
>> These steps work in Windows 7, I assume something like this is possible
>> in the desktop mode of Windows 8 and 10.  If not, you could try "C:\Users"
>> into "Enter Location" and then double-click on your username and all your
>> special drives should be shown.
>>
>> BTW, I'm using 0.9.0-g3a3d58 and it works fine but I would generally try
>> the latest version because they tend to have the latest bug fixes, which
>> are often annoyances Windows users encounter (because they get the latest
>> development versions).
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/23/2016 8:44 AM, Claire de Koker wrote:
>>
>> Hi there
>>
>> I am struggling to start using PSPP and had a couple of questions which
>> the manual and the FAQ online have not been able to answer.
>>
>> I initially downloaded the latest version (I think from 29-01-2016) and
>> subsequently uninstalled and then installed an earlier version, from Nov
>> 2015 (0.85).
>>
>> My biggest difficulty is that I cannot save a data file anywhere. When I
>> click on save as, a window opens with the different folders available. (1)
>> I can't see all folders e.g. our Onedrive or personal folders. (2) when I
>> try to save the data file under 'PSPP' it comes up with an error message
>> saying 'permission denied' or something similar. (3) I cant create a folder
>> either as it also comes up with a message saying 'permission denied' or
>> something similar.
>>
>> Are you able to help?
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Claire
>>
>>
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>>
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>> I watched C-Sharp glitter in the dark near a programmable gate.
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>>
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>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Alan D. Mead, Ph.D.
> President, Talent Algorithms Inc.
>
> science + technology = better workers
>
> +815.588.3846 (Office)
> +267.334.4143 (Mobile)
> http://www.alanmead.org
>
> I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...
> functions on fire in a copy of Orion.
> I watched C-Sharp glitter in the dark near a programmable gate.
> All those moments will be lost in time, like Ruby... on... Rails... Time for 
> Pi.
>
>           --"The Register" user Alister, applying the famous
>             "Blade Runner" speech to software development
>
>
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