Why do you assume that this particular health bill is good for us? If it did the things you are implying, I would not be so horrified. I am not against helping the poor. What I am against is the big business, screw the people aspects. This bill will deliver 30 million new customers to the insurance industry with a guarantee that the govt. will pay the bill. "Heads I win, tails you lose". It does nothing for tort reform or to rein in trial lawyers. It is a gift to the drug companies; they will not be forced to reform their business practices and indeed will give them $100 billion for drug purchases.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[email protected]> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Sarah Palin told 'biggest lie of the year' It's absolutely critical that we pass the Health Care bill tomorrow. I admit that I'm a little disappointed with the bill as is, as are many others; because, it is influenced/written in too large a part by the Health Care Industry, through the influence of their lobbyist. After the bill is passed, it can be tweaked during implementation, and over time, as the system is put into operation, opportunities will become clear where the bill can be improved, streamlined, and enhanced. But if we don't get started on Health Care Reform tomorrow, it may be generations before someone come along again, that is willing to challenge the powerful Health Care segment of our economy. Regards, LelandJ On 12/23/2009 11:32 AM, Publius Maximus wrote: > And I didn't even see THIS until I after I posted my comments (below): > > http://bit.ly/7EEeDK > > - - - > Though Nancy Pelosi and friends have tried to call “death panels” the > “lie of the year,” this type of rationing – what the CBO calls > “reduc[ed] access to care” and “diminish[ed] quality of care” – is > precisely what I meant when I used that metaphor. > - - - > > - Publius > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Publius Maximus > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Of course the irony of this is that the very provision that Reid is >> trying to make reversal-proof by changing Senate rules is the very >> provision that Palin objected to -- the one that basically ensures old >> folks get the short end of the health care resource rationing >> envisioned by the bill. >> >> So she used a metaphor -- death panels -- to describe the >> committee/task force/whatever that decides who gets how much and what >> health care resources (with a pronounced and open preference for >> younger vs. older people) -- and the media get's all technical ("there >> no such term 'death panel' in the bill!")....But, in terms of intent, >> it's not only in there, but also bragged about by top advisers to the >> president, including both John Holdren and Ezekiel Emmanuel. >> >> Hope all you old fogies who don't have years to wait for Supreme Court >> challenges to bubble up through the appellate system have a back up >> plan for survival/life support if this godawful bill becomes law.... >> >> - Publius >> >> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> There are liars, damn liars, and then there's politicians. LOL >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> LelandJ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/23/2009 12:49 AM, Adam Buckland wrote: >>>> >>>> Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has won the dubious >>>> honour of telling the biggest political lie of the year. A panel of >>>> experts ruled her claim the Obama administration was planning to >>>> introduce "death panels" was chosen as the most misleading statement of >>>> 2009. >>>> >>>> Palin, 45, made the claim on her Facebook page at the height of the >>>> debate over President Obama's plans to reform the US health care >>>> system. >>>> >>>> She wrote: "My parents or my baby with Down syndrome will have to stand >>>> in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide whether >>>> they are worthy of health care." >>>> >>>> But the website PolitiFact.com found that there were never any plans to >>>> introduce so called "death panels" to decide who should live or die. >>>> >>>> According to the website Palin's statement on her Facebook page >>>> generated a huge controversy and was mentioned almost 6,000 times over >>>> the next two months. >>>> >>>> >>>>> From The Daily Telegraph, a right wing newspaper from the UK >>>> >>>> >>>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >>>> multipart/alternative >>>> text/plain (text body -- kept) >>>> text/html >>>> --- >>>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a9d45f92a4594f128042679eb3ce2...@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
