Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote in
 <yv08aab1d7ijt...@fantomas.sk>:
 |>>>>>You might work around this by settting
 |>>>>>
 |>>>>>    disable_mime_output_conversion = yes
 |>>>>>
 |>>>>>in main.cf.
 |>>
 |>>>Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
 |>>>> won't this stop mail from being deliverable to the other side?
 |
 |>> On 17.08.22 11:38, Wietse Venema wrote:
 |>>>Then it would have a different name.
 |>>>
 |>>>This setting has been a workaround for SMTP-based content filters
 |>>>that don't announce 8BITMIME support.
 |
 |>Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
 |>> so, with this option postfix tries to deliver 8-bit message without
 |>> converting, hoping that the server will accept it without problems?
 |>> just to understand it correctly
 |
 |On 17.08.22 13:46, Wietse Venema wrote:
 |>That is how qmail and Exim work all the time.
 |
 |I know that qmail has this behaviour (doesn't care), but that is 24-years 
 |unmaintained package.  I know nearly nothing about exim.
 |
 |however, I understand your answer as yes, I was just unsure about it so I 
 |better asked.
 |
 |>They do not implement the MIME related RFCs that require 8-to-7
 |>conversion or returning mail as undeliverable.
 |
 |so they don't recode/process mime which may and may not work (e.g. \
 | if they 
 |pass message to something that can't process 8bit)
 |
 |...which is apparently answer to my previous question

Actually there was a short thread on an according IETF list on
8BITMIME, regarding "does anyone really do that?", aka sending
8-bit data to a server that does not claim it supports 8BITMIME,
and they all said "no", .. and i looked and found out that the
SMTP code of the little dumb MUA that i maintain does exactly
that!!!  Which lead to

  Author:     Steffen Nurpmeso <stef...@sdaoden.eu>
  AuthorDate: 2021-07-22 00:46:37 +0200
  ...

      [-] SMTP: add RFC 6152 support (8BITMIME) (John Levine)

and so must have been about 13 months ago.
(It must be said, though, that "support" is a wording too strong
due to the 44 year old infrastructure of the program i maintain,
which got MIME layed upon it onion like, so the code path cannot
actually MIME-recode (which is also why i want postfix to do the
recoding shall i come to DKIM, because the necessary MIME rewrite
is even further away..), it therefore just results in a failure if
the message is 8-bit but the server cannot: the user has to allow
a different MIME encoding at first.)

--steffen
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