Am 02.12.2014 um 12:16 schrieb Robert Schetterer:
> Am 02.12.2014 um 11:39 schrieb Christian Rößner:
>> So I thought why not using mechanisms from incoming mail for outgoing mail 
>> that does not influence law. And therefor I thought about using DMARC as 
>> well, which would protect outgoing mail from spoofed headers for domains 
>> that already have defined DMARC policies. So if Yahoo, Microsoft, AOL and 
>> all the others have defined DMARC, why should I even allow users to send 
>> mails with spoofed From:- (the envelope-sender is caught by the 
>> reject_sender_login_mismatch), if I could do a quick check for DMARC?
>>
>> Is this wrong thinking? I thought about your words: Fight problems at the 
>> source.
> 
> as far i remember your problem is/was the some faked "from:" header
> injected by webservers scripts, so you need a "mech" which compares this
> to your "allowed" maildomains, this might be usefull config at the
> webserver postfix itself , but i speculate it will not work fine in real
> world on typical submission use.
> 
> Clamav-milter with sane security works fine here at submission, but
> spamass-milter was to slow, i guess if you doing SPF/DKIM/DMARC verify
> with real mail clients it will massive slow down...., so in the
> submission case it might be best accept the mail and filter it before go
> outbound, amavis may classify and handle the mail like whats your policy...
> 
> so i guess you have to split problems for different transport
> channels/servers and handle in a different way...you might not find a
> uni simple solution
> 
> Best Regards
> MfG Robert Schetterer
> 

so final ..,some submission milter should check all From: against
allowed maildomain/mailaddress i.e in addition so sasl sender login
checks, this should avoid deliver in mail ,from some typical pish bots


Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer

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