Am 12.09.2014 um 10:13 schrieb Den:
>> in context of "the spam detector" you need to name it 
>> "GTUBE not supported by postfix filters" makes no sense without naming the
> filter 
> 
> Right. It's spamassassin. Thanks.
> 
>> don't do that - depending on...
> 
> I am not sure I follow. Don't do what? 

run the spamfilter after queue
http://www.postfix.org/MILTER_README.html

> I am saying here that my header checks do not work

i miss a complete log of such a message in that thread

> and all the spam is coming in right through without ever
> being rejected, discarded and so on. I am safe in terms
> of jail :-) because again it doesn't work.

if you run SA as milter header_checks are mot involved at all
because the message is rejected before it ever touchs header_checks

/usr/sbin/spamass-milter -p /run/spamass-milter/spamass-milter.sock -g sa-milt 
-r 8.0 -- -s 3145728.0 --port=10027
that above is a correct setup and any message above score 8 is rejected

Sep 12 10:08:42 mail-gw postfix/smtpd[31570]: 3hvV3G6KHqz20: 
client=smtpoazh.emms.com[62.146.111.108]
Sep 12 10:08:42 mail-gw postfix/cleanup[1956]: 3hvV3G6KHqz20:
message-id=<635461132993660392.h661094...@emailsocket.dc.lan>
Sep 12 10:08:44 mail-gw postfix/cleanup[1956]: 3hvV3G6KHqz20: milter-reject: 
END-OF-MESSAGE from
smtpoazh.emms.com[62.146.111.108]: 5.7.1 Blocked by SpamAssassin; 
from=<bounce76...@flug-jetzt.com> to=<***>
proto=ESMTP helo=<smtpoazh.emms.com>

> Plus, it sounds a little weird to me that any "country and context" 
> may charge you with a crime for just discarding an email

if you are the mailadmin for other users and accept a message with "250 OK" but
silently drop it in germany you hit the same law than a postman standing in
front of your house saying "oh no, i just put that letter in the basket"

just because the sender can proofe that your server accepted the message
but the RCPT never saw it and in case it was a false positive but important
business mail leading to lose money for whatever reason you are guilty

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