MacShane, Tracy wrote:
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org
> [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 9:34 AM
> To: mouss+nob...@netoyen.net
> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: I thought I had a send-only Postfix server, but I see someone
> connected to it!
> 
>       On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:00 PM, mouss <mo...@ml.netoyen.net> wrote:
>       
>               Dave a écrit :
>               
>               > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Bjørn Ruberg 
> <bj...@ruberg.no
>               
>               > <mailto:bj...@ruberg.no>> wrote:
>               >
>               > [snip]
>               >
>               >     An even easier alternative is to let Postfix listen to 
> localhost
>               
>               > OK, I did this too. (In addition to setting inet_interfaces =
> 127.0.0.1
>               
>               > in main.cf <http://main.cf>.)
>               
>               
>               This may cause problems because the IP will also be used for
>               smtp_bind_address, which means smtp will use it as the source 
> IP when
>               talking to other mail servers.
>               
>               better not play with inet_interfaces and edit master.cf instead.
>               
> 
> 
>       Thanks for the tip. As far as I know, however, my Postfix only needs to
> talk to my gmail-provided smtp server. I just tested, and I can indeed
> still send email (which is relayed via gmail) even with the above change
> in place. 
>       
>       I don't want anyone connecting to my Postfix server and I don't want it
> to send any email from any other machine and I only want it to relay email
> via gmail smtp. Given all that, is there any reason to undo the
> inet_interfaces change I made? 
>         
> ===============================
> 
> 
> Personally, I wonder why you're using Postfix at all if you're just
> sending and receiving mail via Gmail. Postfix is a full-blown MTA, so it
> seems like a lot of overkill for mail you could collect via IMAP/POP using
> the mail client of your preference.
> 
> 

Well, now that Postfix is almost working the way I want, it would require
more time to switch to something else. But you have aroused my curiosity.
What is a simple solution that will allow my Linux server to send all
notifications (such as those generated by system events or otherwise and
addressed to root @localhost or any other user account) to me at my gmail
account without using Postfix?

I don't personally have any problem with Postfix. I have gotten a couple
really helpful solutions today that I implemented in just a few minutes.
(Thanks for those!) I do still have some outstanding questions, but I think
I can find simple & quick solutions for those too.

I have experienced some culture shock on this list today, however. I'm
probably spoiled by the Ubuntu forums. For that reason, I would like to
explain why I want follow-this-recipe (cut and paste style solutions), and
why I appreciate the help available at the Ubuntu forums so much. And this
is (hopefully, obviously) not in any way a reply to "Personally, I wonder
why you're using Postfix at all..."

Like many other people today, I am aware of important environmental issues,
the breakdown of the health care system, the huge political changes taken
place now, the financial crisis, and other events that will have a huge
impact on our children and subsequent generations. I cannot justify spending
hours of my time to read documents that are hard for me to understand to
solve a problem for the server hosting my blog that has no relative
importance in the world. If I have a few spare hours of time, there are big
problems I want to work on. (If my server gets in the way of that work, I
should probably just pull its power cord.) 

The experts have already learned Postfix. As far as I am concerned, I can't
add anything to the world by learning Postfix too. However, there are
problems I can solve that no one has yet solved. That's where my time has to
go. And I can leverage the help of people for whom knowing Postfix is more
central to their purpose in life. In that same way, when I interact with the
public in my profession, I don't expect others to read research papers. I do
the work and I share my knowledge with them. I try to make it easy for them
to acquire what may have been difficult for me to acquire. 

I wasn't involved in Linux before Ubuntu, but my impression is that many
Linux communities are elitist and don't want casual users like me asking
questions (i.e., wasting their time).

BTW, I do think open source is VERY important, and I have invested a lot of
effort in an attempt to run my blog on Linux rather than Windows. But I need
cook-book, recipe-style solutions where I can just copy some lines of code
and quickly fix my issues. Some Linux forums understand that there are new
people (like me) coming to Linux who are not seeking to become system
administrators (or even to become proficient at using a certain
application). I certainly do not need to become extremely proficient at
administering Postfix (or a Linux firewall or probably anything else on my
blog host). That should not offend anyone here. That should not prevent
anyone from offering me help in the form of simple solutions.

I'm sure I can resolve my outstanding postfix issues with very little
additional time. I want to run Linux, quickly get my computing tasks done,
and spend as much time as I can engaged in other aspects of my life. And I
would like to do the things I do on Linux reasonably correctly, by
leveraging the expertise of people like those who helped me solve a problem
earlier today. Again, much thanks to them for those very helpful replies.

Reading a bunch of docs (that I don't even have the background to
understand) should not be a prerequisite for getting help on this Linux
mailing lists or forums. Some of you may think I'm spoiled by Unbuntu (and I
know many people do resent Ubuntu), but if it wasn't for the helpful
attitude of the Ubuntu forums, I'm sure I would still be stuck running 100%
proprietary software (which is not always a nice place to be).

I do hope this post doesn't offend anyone. I'm not even sure why I invested
the time and effort to write it other than the fact that I want to see Linux
and open source grow into the dominant forces in software. If that happens,
there will be a lot more newbies experimenting with things like Postfix.
That will be a good thing.

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