I did a thanks before, but I thank specially to U to take such an effort, The effort seems tohave elevated Linux from realms of community dictatorship towards Majocracy(democracy without party). U too have got elevated from realms of your basic instincts, thats a miracle. Read Between lines
--- lonetwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Gurudatta, > > I'll curb my basic instinct to blast and try and > answer this mail in simple > terms which hopefully you would be able to > understand with some effort. # thanks again, I read it all, its well written for me # to understand. > --- Gurudatta Raut > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now that many of U have spent vast good parts > of > > your life in linux, and linux being so free open & > > liberae (I am not giving up even though its not), > I > > want to know where the hell is that website where > all > > users of linux can vote for and put their most > wanted > > linux features and most dispected linux features > lists > > ? > > When you install Linux, what you get is: > a) The GNU/linux kernel # I am a user I dont care much about Kernel, but Just # curious, How come LILO dosent require a Kernel ? # and How far can BootLoaders be streched to mimic # A complete OS out of them ? Sounds crazy ? > b) A selection of packages that the distributor of > the linux distribution > decided to include with the help of the community > that supports the > distribution. Often a choice is made to choose one > package over another > similar package. (For example: xine instead of > mplayer). For each of these > packages, the best suitable default configurations > that is decided, again > with the guidance of community opinion. # Whatever happened to UserLinux and when will we get # a distro out of Public Demand from scratch > Now, each of these packages themselves have a number > of contributors that > collectively decide the evolution of the package. > > This is like a democracy. Think of a disto as a > political party, the packages > as the pet-projects (or issues) that political > parties commit themselves to. # Democracy is no good we need Majocracy for Linux # http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34298 > Now, coming to answer your question: how does one > influence decisions or > bring about change ? There are different approaches: > > a) The easiest is to vote for the party whose > philosophy or agenda is most > closely aligned with yours. This translates to > "Choosing the distro you feel > most comfortable with". If you go this way, the > effort is minimum (you just > have to make a choice), but the trade-off is you > have to accept the > shortcomings of your choice with the benefits. # still we have to choose what out there, This is bad # business, they should make what will sell and only # users can tell that, but its not so anywhere, So I # mean one website for the world instead of fragmented # suggestion for particular distors > b) Get actively involved with the functioning of the > political party. This > translates to "Get involved with the community > supporting your distribution". > For Fedora go here: > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/ > For Mandriva go here: > http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/view/RpmsFarm/VotingBooth > For Debian go here: > http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ # thanks for the effort, hope they find the light > c) Get actively involved with a community that are > involved in issues > themselves, instead of relying on the political > party to address the issues > correctly. This translates to - "Get involved with > the community supporting a > particular package". # when my time arrives I will, there are other far # more imp. issues I am battling now, read my blog > For Mozilla/FireFox/Thunderbird this is at > http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/ > For OpenOffice it is > http://contributing.openoffice.org/index.html > For the linux kernel itself it is: > http://kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/reporting-bugs.html > > Now, no matter which route from the above you choose > to bring about change, > any one of them is immensely more preferable and > effective than shouting out > "The whole system sucks !!" (this applies to both > political ideals as well as > the linux community). # I wont be in this group had the whole system ... > I understand that after being used to a > communist/dictatorship regime, where > one sole body (company or party) is responsible for > everything, the democracy > of linux is quite a shock, but take some > responsibility and behave maturely > and you will notice the advantages. # Yes its a shock that democracy is seen as the # ultimate goal of human imagination, maturity is a # political perception that I am deviod of > In conclusion, my only hope is that this mail clears > up some issues for a > wider audience than just Gurudatta, since I'd be > pained to realize that I > spent almost 45 mins hitting my head against a brick > wall. # I felt the same initially, but it aint so > > If U r a linux lover U wont ignore this question, > its > > your moral obligatory duty to address this issue > and > > solve it. > > Speaking about morals, I'm still waiting for the > thanks and apology[1]. I > dare you to muster enough strength of character to > do it. > > HTH > Regards > Steve > # THANKS # Let me remind all, That FLASH BLOCK is a incredible # Plugin, there was no command line involved, the boy # is growing up fast, Mr. Win is aging fast. > http://plug.org.in/pipermail/plug-mail/2005-August/016229.html - Saint Zyx Infoligence Associates, http://Infoligence.blogspot.com Information Intelligence Through Power of Oneness ! __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com -- ______________________________________________________________________ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
