Norbert,
you nailed it ;-) Easy and cheap and lots of layers of magic
infrastructure nailed and hammered onto each other don't go well with
each other. I am still a fan of having some server - virtual or physical
- that I can reinstall from scratch and as little moving parts as
possible on top of that. I rather have a little collection of sheets on
which I wrote down each single step of installing what's needed and a
good backup of ini files and whatnot than a pile of "stuff" that makes
things "easy".
I know, that's so 90ies, but hey, we're using Smalltalk from the 70ies ;-)
Joachim
Am 13.04.21 um 18:09 schrieb Norbert Hartl:
I read the title which contains „easiest/cheapest“ and then you drop names „docker“,
"CI which injects“ and „stages" … this invalidates at least „easiest“ and maybe
„cheapest“ as well. I think I missed the intent of this mail. So can you give a few more
details otherwise it is hard to meet the „easiest on this level of requirements“
Norbert
Am 12.04.2021 um 10:36 schrieb Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works>:
That is cheap 3e/m is definitely worth considering… but I guess you do have to
take care of your own patching etc right (which isn’t necessarily horrible, but
does require a bit of extra effort to track things). I was interested in
whether the next step up in the food chain using Docker images that are hosted
for you, might lessen the burden a bit? E.g. if your CI injects a pharo image
into the latest “safe” docker image from the community - then hopefully you are
insulated from all of this. It does look like this is becoming a reality if
that dockerize.io soln plays out (I got that working, its cheap - however they
haven’t answered any of my email queries… so I do wonder how real it actually
is). The fallback would definitely be something like Hetzner or Digital Ocean I
guess.
Tim
On 12 Apr 2021, at 08:47, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
Am 12.04.2021 um 04:02 schrieb Jeff Gray <j...@rogerthedog.com>:
Considering easiest and cheapest, there's always self hosting, or are you
discounting that idea?
Most geeks have a bit of spare hardware laying around and broadband
up-speeds aren't too bad.
I'm guessing that if we are in the $5 a month ball park then we aren't
needing a guaranteed up time.
My cloud instance is 3€/month. With an additional 20% amount the instance has a
backup. And setting it up is way simpler then getting dynamic DNS updates and
all of that configured. Times have changed a bit.
Norbert
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