> Am 14.12.2016 um 18:00 schrieb Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com>:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:35 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 
>>> <offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>>> This is a good example of the "empowering map" I talk about about 
>>> "Pharo/Smalltalk places for you". What we can look forward in 2017 is 
>>> different for different people, so going beyond the "most exiting 
>>> developments", hype and shiny new things is also a way to show how 
>>> Pharo/Smalltalk are different. We can provide shine and hype, but also 
>>> we're building stuff for different interests and people and that is even 
>>> more worthy to look for the upcoming times (2017 and beyond).
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Offray
>>> 
>> 
>> I think there is big difference between doing something exciting versus 
>> doing something useful. Excitement dies out but usefulness does not. I don't 
>> do it to make Pharo look cool, I do it because I need it. I also do not like 
>> to do something and then abandon it like it happens for 99% of the open 
>> source software. 
>> 
>> Also maintenance becomes a big issue if the scope is wide. Of course you can 
>> also combine excitement with usefulness and still keep the scope reasonably 
>> achievable. 
>> 
>> A thing I love about Pharo is because its so limited third party library 
>> wise it forces me to go do that stuff myself and this definitely builds 
>> confidence in one's coding skills. I really like this DYI approach and I am 
>> definitely moving to the opposite direction of "do not reinvent the wheel". 
>> This would have been unthinkable in communities of very popular languages. I 
>> really like that Pharo forces me to be much less lazy as a coder.
> 
> Because reinventing the wheel is a good way to learn about wheels...

I like that argument. I copy that 😀

Norbert
> cheers -ben
>  
>> 
>> Its also impressive to see the things that other people do by themselves too 
>> and be inspired by it. 
>> 
>> The real problem is that this work is not really visible, I think Pharo 
>> needs something like a magazine and people should be encouraged to share 
>> their work even if it is in early stage because you never know who will find 
>> it useful. I feel the things we see in the mailing list is only the tip of 
>> the iceberg of what people work on and is pity all this code to be lost in 
>> obscurity. 
> 

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