On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:35 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>
>> This is a good example of the "empowering map" I talk about about
>> "Pharo/Smalltalk places for you". What we can look forward in 2017 is
>> different for different people, so going beyond the "most exiting
>> developments", hype and shiny new things is also a way to show how
>> Pharo/Smalltalk are different. We can provide shine and hype, but also
>> we're building stuff for different interests and people and that is even
>> more worthy to look for the upcoming times (2017 and beyond).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>
> I think there is big difference between doing something exciting versus
> doing something useful. Excitement dies out but usefulness does not. I
> don't do it to make Pharo look cool, I do it because I need it. I also do
> not like to do something and then abandon it like it happens for 99% of the
> open source software.
>
> Also maintenance becomes a big issue if the scope is wide. Of course you
> can also combine excitement with usefulness and still keep the scope
> reasonably achievable.
>
> A thing I love about Pharo is because its so limited third party library
> wise it forces me to go do that stuff myself and this definitely builds
> confidence in one's coding skills. I really like this DYI approach and I am
> definitely moving to the opposite direction of "do not reinvent the wheel".
> This would have been unthinkable in communities of very popular languages.
> I really like that Pharo forces me to be much less lazy as a coder.
>

Because reinventing the wheel is a good way to learn about wheels...
cheers -ben


>
> Its also impressive to see the things that other people do by themselves
> too and be inspired by it.
>
> The real problem is that this work is not really visible, I think Pharo
> needs something like a magazine and people should be encouraged to share
> their work even if it is in early stage because you never know who will
> find it useful. I feel the things we see in the mailing list is only the
> tip of the iceberg of what people work on and is pity all this code to be
> lost in obscurity.
>

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