> On 24 May 2016, at 16:11, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goub...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2016-05-24 15:18 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com > <mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>>: > Well technically the python part works fine, BUT I also always wanted it to > be friendly to begineers . So nope , its same project. And you are correct > its still focused in coding 3d graphics but I came to realisation that if I > want some people to use it, obviously i dont expect the massive majority to > give up the comforts of python but for those that are curious I have to > provide an enviroment thats is even easier to code in than python is > currently for Blender. > > My goal is to provide a development enviroment for Blender addons that is > simple, and easy to use and learn. > > So providing a minimal pharo image that is self documented has always being a > dream for Ephestos. > > By the way whats the news on the matter of modular pharo image ? Is there any > work done to provide a minimal pharo image ? > > There is a minimal image, which is I think usable as-is, except that what you > want is something in between the minimal image (no gui, no tools) and a full > image, and that is a bit complex to set-up. > > I started some work on doing that with Pharo4 (put a place with baselines I > could use to load the HEAD of the Pharo main repository and load the right > packages), but Pharo5 changed the way external projects are included, and my > approach wasn't good anymore. > > I think the overall Pharo organisation could benefit from such an effort; it > would exercise all the planned mechanisms for the modular image, in maybe an > easier way than a modular full image, and with someone motivated to debug and > maintain the process: you!
honestly, I wouldn’t. working in a parallel image is too much work (believe me, I know something about keeping an image going). Pavel and Christophe are working on the bootstrap process who should be working in one-two months, with that, building custom images will be finally a reality…from there you might want to give it a try. But I would better invest on document (something that you have been doing very well and I’m very thankful for that) than in keeping alive what is, in fact, a fork. cheers, Esteban > > Thierry > > > > > I would hate to replicate what is already done. > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:59 PM Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com > <mailto:b...@openinworld.com>> wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > <kilon.al...@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > So I was reading the complains from Sven and got Inspiration from Torsten > > Pharo image and CUIs and made me wonder what if we had an image which has > > the least amount of libraries and every library inside it is full commented > > in class, package and method and even has tutorial using inside help tool. > > > > So I think I will give this project a try. I know there is a plan to make > > pharo image more modular, but modularity does not equal minimalism , > > simplicity and ease of use. > > > > I think I will follow the CUIs example and do the development via Github. > > > > But I am open to ideas and suggestions. > > > > My intention is to remove the excess fat, to make Pharo prettier (improve > > theme support and make available several themes ) and to have everything > > commented and self documented. > > > > Obviously this will be a long term project and in no way a walk in the park > > but I was looking for a nice project to name "Ephestos" :D seem as good as > > any > > Did this project not pane out?... > > https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2014/07/16/ephestos-using-and-coding-blender-from-inside-pharo/ > > <https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2014/07/16/ephestos-using-and-coding-blender-from-inside-pharo/> > > Seems you're quite attached to that name :) > but is there a minor chance of confusion? > > cheers -ben > >
