Am 09.07.2013 um 11:01 schrieb Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com>:

> On 9 July 2013 10:21, Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9 July 2013 10:08, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 09 Jul 2013, at 10:03, Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 9 July 2013 09:13, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote:
>>>>>>> First, not all programming languages are like this: You can easily run 
>>>>>>> other VMs (e.g., Java) with more than 3 GB. But, let's not even go 
>>>>>>> there: I can run Pharo with 1Gb on Mac without problems. According to 
>>>>>>> your reasoning we might end up downgrading the Mac VM. Some data does 
>>>>>>> not fit in memory, but if I can get all my data in my image, I will 
>>>>>>> choose to do it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am not saying that we should compare with Java, or that it is the end 
>>>>>>> of the world that the Windows VM is highly restricted. I am simply 
>>>>>>> saying that we should not dismiss this as a problem just because we do 
>>>>>>> not know how, or do not have the resources to solve it right now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After all, we are here to change the world :).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, but this topic was raised multiple times already. Maybe we should
>>>>>> stop wasting time on it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All you need to do, to change the limit, go to
>>>>>> platforms/win32/vm/sqWin32Alloc.h
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And change this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> #ifndef MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY
>>>>>> #define MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY 512*1024*1024
>>>>>> #endif
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, if you want more, build VM with any limit you see fit.
>>>>>> But there's a reason why in official VM its 512.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Igor this is a real issue and we are all fighting to get more members in 
>>>>> the consortium
>>>>> so that one day we can hire a guy like you to address it.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed/commit/341e6c2e150bcde80dfea6c890bab7745b2a6d44
>>> 
>>> Yeah ! Now users can set the limit themselves.
>>> 
>>> And then they will come back complaining that certain things don't work 
>>> when they raise the limit too high ;-)
>>> 
>>> One day we will have a proper 64-bit VM.
>>> 
>> Yes, i wish we can be there today.
>> (And one day people will learn a difference between actual memory used
>> and reserved address space :)
>> 
> .. because reserving 512Mb for image which barely eats 30Mb is a huge waste.

Yes, use cases are different. Therefor there should be a vm switch where you 
can choose the maximum memory to reserve, to heap size at start, the maximum 
heap size, etc. 

Norbert


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