At 06:59 PM 8/1/00 -0500, J. David Blackstone wrote:
>   I'm presuming we can count on really fast methods to be one of the
>goals of the internals group.  Perl is where I learned O-O
>(discovering wasn't just a useless buzzword), and I'd like to see
>Perl6 make O-O much more natural, without forcing O-O on people who
>still think like I used to and prefer function-oriented interfaces.

Fast method calls are definitely On The List.

>   Re: #1, above, I'd go so far as to suggest that nearly every system
>call in Perl (along with just about every punctuation variable) should
>find itself in a module and only in a module.

I think not. At least not from the programmer's perspective. From mine 
perhaps, but that's different.

>Languages like C and
>Pascal even go so far as to make I/O an "option" that you have to
>#include (or whatever, depending on the language; Pascal makes you
>specify it explicitly in some way I don't quite remember), and they
>seem to do fine.

For some pretty pathetic definitions of "fine". I could rant about C's 
brain-dead stdio library for quite a while, but it's not relevant here.

I like perl's smart built-in IO just fine, thanks. :) Don't mind making it 
better, but I do mind making it optional.

                                        Dan

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