Well first of all, I'm not signing on to flickr to see your sets. However kudos 
to you for posting nude males.

It's a start.

And I disagree about nudity. It's always sexual, presuming that genitalia or 
other erogenous bits are visible. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. But come 
on: show me a sex organ and I'll show you something sexual.

That's not to say that nudity is necessary for sexualization; of course it's 
not. Some of the sexiest images I've seen feature fully clothed models.

Cheers,
frank

Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 09:14:57PM -0500, knarf wrote:
>> I only mention that because there seems to be a double standard here:
>it's okay to show female sexuality but not male. And I wonder why?
>> 
>> I understand that an individual photographer will say, "But I don't
>want to photograph male nudes. As a straight male I just don't
>appreciate male nudity, erotic or otherwise. It's my right to choose to
>photograph only female nudes."
>> 
>> Fair enough.
>> 
> -- snip --
>
>> 
>> 
>> However until there is some balance between portrayal of the genders
>I can't support female nudes. Because until that happens females will
>be sexualized and males won't be. And I just don't think that's right. 
>> 
>
>Fair enough.  There have a few reasons that I don't post nudes of men.
>
>To a minor extent, it's because I don't think that the list here, by
>and
>far wants to see them.
>
>Another reason is that the account that I post my more adult themed
>work
>on is on a very NSFW website, but if anyone is specifically interested
>send me a note off list, and I'll send you the details.
>
>The biggest reason is that while I do get quite a few people asking me 
>to photograph them nude, very few of them are men. But, since it seems 
>so important to you, and in the interest of fairness...
>
>Here are some nude self portraits I took when I wanted to work with
>lighting and didn't have any other models:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630136872846/
>
>When my schedule allows, one of the things I do is host photo 
>practicas for the local fetish/kink community.  Anybody who
>wants to can show up to take or pose for photos. I am pretty much
>end up photographing the people who want to be photographed, 
>that nobody else is photographing.  At this event, I was the 
>only person taking photos, everybody else either wanted to
>pose for photos, or tie other people up for photos. 
>
>I was involved in tying the scarves in the first of these shots,
>but I didn't do any of the actual ropework:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157638030990316/
>
>It should be obvious that while none of these photos sho any actual 
>dangly bits, they are most likely not safe for work
>
>As to your contention that nudity equates with sexualization, 
>I heartily disagree with you. Nudity is neither a necessary, nor
>a sufficient condition for sexualization. If you so desire, I
>could debate you on this topic until people start begging us
>to post cat photos just for respite.
>
>If you need more for the sake of equity, I can point you to a
>couple of sets where I did the lighting and posing, because a
>friend wanted to photograph some nudes, and I was what was 
>available as a model.

“Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel



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