William Robb said:

>The A 15mm f/3.5 offers 35mm coverage with 13 elements in 12 groups, 
>3.1 inches long by 3.3 inches in diameter, and a comparatively 
>porcine 20.9 ounces. It also gives up uncomfortably close to a stop 
>of speed.

Assuming it's useful wide open, which I've heard that it might not be
for some people's standards--if the 14 is better wide open then it's more 
like a two stop difference.  I haven't had the money to fiddle with 
anybody's 15mm lens to know how good they are at any aperture--most of 
the 15mm lens designs are rather old.  I bought a cheap sigma 14mm lens 
and have regretted it every time I use it.

>The Nikkor 14mm f/2.8 is also very big, a little bigger than the 
>Pentax 15mm and 2.5 ounces heavier.

Wrong comparison.  The 15/3.5 Pentax dates optically to 1974.  The 14/2.8 
Nikkor to the late '90s or early '00s.  Compare the 15/3.5 Pentax to the
15/3.5 AIS Nikkor which is much closer to a contemporary.  The 14 Pentax 
is much more rightly compared to the 14 Nikkor, despite one being 35mm and 
the other being APS-format.

>While the APS coverage lens is certainly smaller and lighter, it 
>isn't hugely smaller, and surprisingly heavy.

One doesn't know what a 14/2.8 non-DA Pentax would look like.  The
12-24 APS-format Nikkor isn't small, light, or cheap as most people
assumed an APS-format lens would be, but it's probably a lot smaller
and cheaper than it would be in 35mm format (assuming you could even do it 
with 35mm coverage...)

>There is certainly the matter of cost to factor in, the 15mm was a 
>bloody expensive lens.

What gets me is that I HAVE seen 15/3.5 Pentax lenses (K-mount, never 
M42, of which there are apparently less than 1000) for sale,
for less than $1000 used.  The 15/3.5 Nikkor, which is fairly common on 
the used market right now, goes for over $1000 despite the availibility of 
Nikkor and third-party 14/2.8 lenses that are AF, newer, and from 
everything I've hear much better optically.  The 14mm Nikkor goes for 
something like $1300 new--I wish I'd bought one instead of the crappy 
Sigma I did buy.

DJE

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