Good advice, Jerome.

As an aside, I used to do a bit of zoo photography with a 135. Sure it was
too short for some of the smaller animals, but with a little patience I got
quite a few good shots. I would think a 300 would be adequate for most zoo
shots. Also should work for a lot of game preserve shooting. In the wild a
300 would be marginal.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


----- Original Message -----
From: "jerome" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I haven't read all of the emails, but rather caught the above blurb from
> someone's response. However, I felt compelled to mention that the more I
read,
> the more this is starting to sound moreso like a need for better technique
> rather than better equipment (even though both may very well be the case).
By
> technique, I mean a few things:
>
> a) perhaps being more patient. If the animal is not in a good vantage
point
> (e.g., not close enough) then sometimes you just gotta wait it out.
Sometimes
> seconds, sometimes minutes... sometimes it just means "maybe another day".
In
> some instances it can simply mean finding a better point to shoot from.
But of
> course this is not always possible. Sur, You may be able to reach things
that
> you couldn't before but keep in mind: 1) f2.8 + 2x TC + at least 1 stop
for
> good measure (or even 2 for DOF) = your right back at f8 or f11. and 2) as
Mark
> pointed out, dealing with that 2x TC can really knock your image quality
down a
> few notches anyway.
>
> b) Learn the behavior of your subjects. The reason I say this is because
you
> seem unsatisfied with a 1/125 sec. shutter speed, and suggested that this
> makes "many shots...impossible". This kinda baffles me since I can't
remember
> the last time I was able to shoot above 1/100 with either the 300mm f2.8
OR the
> 400 f2.8..
>
> Given that the best zoo photos are typically on overcast days and/or with
> animals shying away from direct sunlight, I usually live around the 1/30
to
> 1/60 range, with 1/15 not being unusual. Granted, I use ISO 100 film...
but the
> point is that it (slow speeds) works, and few shots are "impossible"
unless
> you're specifically trying to freeze action. You just need timing. And a
whole
> heap of patience for that right moment (which may literally last 1 second
as
> the animals pauses for thought or changes direction).
>
> I kinda sensed the "if I had a big fast lens, then click click click and
> excellent photos are mine" syndrome for a second there. So I just thought
I'd
> mention this since I'd hate for you (or anyone) to spend a heap of money
on
> fast primes and be totally disenchanted when they find that the equipment
> additions didn't "save the day".
>


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