Well my friend, thanks for the expert advice!  I was thinking that when CD's 
first came out, they were supposed to last forever because nothing was 
touching them but laser light, but I did get a DVD called Wag the Dog that I 
wanted to watch, but couldn't because the disk was broken into two pieces!
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From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder


> Nothing lasts a lifetime, my friend. Or rather, nothing is guaranteed to
> last a lifetime. Stone is probably as close as it gets. The best backup
> technique, like I've said, is to badk up to multiple sources and do so
> again every number of years.
>
> bruce
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> On Thu, 31 May 2007, Gary Wood wrote:
>
>> But if you wanted to take any song that was recorded in flash memory that
>> you wanted to keep, could that last a lifetime?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder
>>
>>
>>> But flash does have a limited shelf life, from my understanding, just 
>>> like
>>> any other storage. Certainly, the number of times it can be rewritten is
>>> limited.
>>>
>>> Bruce
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>>> On Thu, 31 May 2007, Gary Wood wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that flash could be the new standard.  After all, with flash, I
>>>> think there are no moving parts to wear out.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:29 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The key word here is back up everything on another drive. or to go
>>>>> flash.
>>>>> Do
>>>>> you really think that radio stations, for an  example have all of 
>>>>> their
>>>>> music, jingles, and commercial content only on one drive? I think not.
>>>>> Believe me, if it's mechanical it will fail. The question is when? 
>>>>> Mind
>>>>> you, hard drive technology has improved over the years and is more
>>>>> reliable,
>>>>> but as stated earlier in this post it is mechanical, and given time it
>>>>> will
>>>>> crash. Audio tape isn't an exact science either, as it too will break
>>>>> down
>>>>> over time. . Most of us do not have the technology to preserve the
>>>>> storage
>>>>> of electronic media in our homes.
>>>>> I am talking about the storage of materials on magnetic tape. Although
>>>>> compact discs have proven to be very reliable so far, we have no idea
>>>>> how
>>>>> long they will last, as they have only been around since the mid 80's.
>>>>> Personally it is my feeling that flash memory will soon become the
>>>>> standard.
>>>>> There are memory sticks on the market that will hold up to 700 of 
>>>>> those
>>>>> old
>>>>> floppies that most of us grew up with, and the price of these sticks 
>>>>> is
>>>>> quite reasonable too at around 15 dollars Canadian when on sale. . 
>>>>> .
>>>>> .
>>>>> . . . .  .
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bob.  Here's a question:  If everyone gives up CD's and tapes for 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> harddrive, if you put all your stored music on it from many years of
>>>>>> listening, what if the drive crashes, and then you lose everything 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> have,
>>>>>> short of copying to another harddrive recording system?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Revox cassette recorder
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Revox cassette recorder that you are probably looking for is 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> model
>>>>>>> 710.
>>>>>>> Nakimichi made two professional cassette recorders in the 70's. The
>>>>>>> 1000,
>>>>>>> and the cheaper 700. I personally have the 700 model. It is a 
>>>>>>> solenoid
>>>>>>> machine with three motors with Dolby, echo, and a oscillator for 
>>>>>>> tape
>>>>>>> alignment. The thinking here is that there are no two cassettes 
>>>>>>> alike
>>>>>>> despite how stringent manufacturing might be. By using the tone for
>>>>>>> alignment you could be assured of a perfect recording all of the 
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> 700 even comes with a wired remote control. This company also made a
>>>>>>> portable 600 model which was very good for field recording.
>>>>>>> You may also want to look at Tascam. Tascam is the professional line
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Teac. If I had my druthers and wanted to stick with the audio tape
>>>>>>> format I would much rather use R-dat. The problem here is that R-dat
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> professionally, and unfortunately did not catch on with the public 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> expected. It has been rumoured in the audio file community that CD's
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> on the way out in favour of audio being put on flash cards and hard
>>>>>>> drives.
>>>>>>> It truly makes sense, as you can now get a 500 GB external hard 
>>>>>>> drive
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> about 150 bucks. One could virtually have their entire record
>>>>>>> collection
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> one portable drive to take anywhere. Most commercial radio stations
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> their entire music library on hard drives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:30 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: audio cassette squeel problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The last thing that you want to do is to amerce your cassette in
>>>>>>>> water.
>>>>>>>> Make sure that anything that comes in contact with the audio tape 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>> such as the tape transport, capstan, pinch roller, and record and
>>>>>>>> playback
>>>>>>>> heads. Once that is done, and the tape still squeeks then you may
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> try the following.
>>>>>>>> Tape Baking
>>>>>>>> When magnetic recording tapes are being stored, moisture is slowly
>>>>>>>> absorbed by the binder that holds the components of the tape
>>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>> Affected tapes will squeak when played back. The squeaking can be
>>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>>> directly from the tape passing over the playback head and other 
>>>>>>>> fixed
>>>>>>>> parts of the player, but is also transmitted electronically through
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> playback head. Often the tape will also sound dull and distorted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you hear a tape that is squeaking, stop playing the tape
>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>> Continuing to play a squeaking tape can cause permanent damage to 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> tape, and in some cases damage to the player.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This problem can happen to any tape, but is more common in tapes
>>>>>>>> manufactured after the mid 1970s in the USA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The solution to the problem of squeaking tapes is to bake the tapes
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> very low temperature in an oven. There are as many different 
>>>>>>>> opinions
>>>>>>>> about optimum temperature and duration of baking as there are audio
>>>>>>>> engineers. Certainly, do not attempt to bake your own tapes unless
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> be certain that the temperature in your oven will not exceed 60
>>>>>>>> degrees
>>>>>>>> Celsius
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CD ROM Services Pty Ltd offers a tape baking service, and although 
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> successfully baked well over a hundred tapes, and haven't damaged
>>>>>>>> one,
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> will take all care in baking your tapes, but cannot take
>>>>>>>> responsibility
>>>>>>>> for accidental damage. If you give us your tapes to bake, it is on
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