Well my friend, thanks for the expert advice! I was thinking that when CD's first came out, they were supposed to last forever because nothing was touching them but laser light, but I did get a DVD called Wag the Dog that I wanted to watch, but couldn't because the disk was broken into two pieces! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:28 AM Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder
> Nothing lasts a lifetime, my friend. Or rather, nothing is guaranteed to > last a lifetime. Stone is probably as close as it gets. The best backup > technique, like I've said, is to badk up to multiple sources and do so > again every number of years. > > bruce > > -- > Bruce Toews > Skype ID: o.canada > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com > Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > > On Thu, 31 May 2007, Gary Wood wrote: > >> But if you wanted to take any song that was recorded in flash memory that >> you wanted to keep, could that last a lifetime? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:00 AM >> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >> >> >>> But flash does have a limited shelf life, from my understanding, just >>> like >>> any other storage. Certainly, the number of times it can be rewritten is >>> limited. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >>> -- >>> Bruce Toews >>> Skype ID: o.canada >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com >>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >>> >>> On Thu, 31 May 2007, Gary Wood wrote: >>> >>>> I think that flash could be the new standard. After all, with flash, I >>>> think there are no moving parts to wear out. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:29 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >>>> >>>> >>>>> The key word here is back up everything on another drive. or to go >>>>> flash. >>>>> Do >>>>> you really think that radio stations, for an example have all of >>>>> their >>>>> music, jingles, and commercial content only on one drive? I think not. >>>>> Believe me, if it's mechanical it will fail. The question is when? >>>>> Mind >>>>> you, hard drive technology has improved over the years and is more >>>>> reliable, >>>>> but as stated earlier in this post it is mechanical, and given time it >>>>> will >>>>> crash. Audio tape isn't an exact science either, as it too will break >>>>> down >>>>> over time. . Most of us do not have the technology to preserve the >>>>> storage >>>>> of electronic media in our homes. >>>>> I am talking about the storage of materials on magnetic tape. Although >>>>> compact discs have proven to be very reliable so far, we have no idea >>>>> how >>>>> long they will last, as they have only been around since the mid 80's. >>>>> Personally it is my feeling that flash memory will soon become the >>>>> standard. >>>>> There are memory sticks on the market that will hold up to 700 of >>>>> those >>>>> old >>>>> floppies that most of us grew up with, and the price of these sticks >>>>> is >>>>> quite reasonable too at around 15 dollars Canadian when on sale. . >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> . . . . . >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:23 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Bob. Here's a question: If everyone gives up CD's and tapes for >>>>>> a >>>>>> harddrive, if you put all your stored music on it from many years of >>>>>> listening, what if the drive crashes, and then you lose everything >>>>>> you >>>>>> have, >>>>>> short of copying to another harddrive recording system? >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:24 PM >>>>>> Subject: Revox cassette recorder >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> The Revox cassette recorder that you are probably looking for is >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> model >>>>>>> 710. >>>>>>> Nakimichi made two professional cassette recorders in the 70's. The >>>>>>> 1000, >>>>>>> and the cheaper 700. I personally have the 700 model. It is a >>>>>>> solenoid >>>>>>> machine with three motors with Dolby, echo, and a oscillator for >>>>>>> tape >>>>>>> alignment. The thinking here is that there are no two cassettes >>>>>>> alike >>>>>>> despite how stringent manufacturing might be. By using the tone for >>>>>>> alignment you could be assured of a perfect recording all of the >>>>>>> time. >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> 700 even comes with a wired remote control. This company also made a >>>>>>> portable 600 model which was very good for field recording. >>>>>>> You may also want to look at Tascam. Tascam is the professional line >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Teac. If I had my druthers and wanted to stick with the audio tape >>>>>>> format I would much rather use R-dat. The problem here is that R-dat >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> used >>>>>>> professionally, and unfortunately did not catch on with the public >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> expected. It has been rumoured in the audio file community that CD's >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> now >>>>>>> on the way out in favour of audio being put on flash cards and hard >>>>>>> drives. >>>>>>> It truly makes sense, as you can now get a 500 GB external hard >>>>>>> drive >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> about 150 bucks. One could virtually have their entire record >>>>>>> collection >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> one portable drive to take anywhere. Most commercial radio stations >>>>>>> now >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> their entire music library on hard drives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:30 PM >>>>>>> Subject: audio cassette squeel problem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The last thing that you want to do is to amerce your cassette in >>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>> Make sure that anything that comes in contact with the audio tape >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> clean >>>>>>>> such as the tape transport, capstan, pinch roller, and record and >>>>>>>> playback >>>>>>>> heads. Once that is done, and the tape still squeeks then you may >>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> try the following. >>>>>>>> Tape Baking >>>>>>>> When magnetic recording tapes are being stored, moisture is slowly >>>>>>>> absorbed by the binder that holds the components of the tape >>>>>>>> together. >>>>>>>> Affected tapes will squeak when played back. The squeaking can be >>>>>>>> heard >>>>>>>> directly from the tape passing over the playback head and other >>>>>>>> fixed >>>>>>>> parts of the player, but is also transmitted electronically through >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> playback head. Often the tape will also sound dull and distorted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you hear a tape that is squeaking, stop playing the tape >>>>>>>> immediately. >>>>>>>> Continuing to play a squeaking tape can cause permanent damage to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> tape, and in some cases damage to the player. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This problem can happen to any tape, but is more common in tapes >>>>>>>> manufactured after the mid 1970s in the USA. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The solution to the problem of squeaking tapes is to bake the tapes >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> very low temperature in an oven. There are as many different >>>>>>>> opinions >>>>>>>> about optimum temperature and duration of baking as there are audio >>>>>>>> engineers. 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