I've never seen paper tape used for audio! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder
>I guess the rule here is that if it ain't etched in stone it's not > permanent, and even stone will wear down. Archiving audio and video files > for long periods of time have always been an issue. Photographs fade, and > audio tape becomes brittle, and if not properly taken care of will > discinigrate. Apparently audio tape that was made in the mid to late 70's > was inferior to the audio tape that was manufactured in the 60's. Believe > it > or not paper audio tape held up rather well over the years. It is hard to > find and is still out there in someone's audio file. There really isn't a > permanent solution. to the safe storage of audio and video files for long > periods of time. I was a music librarian for over 20 years, and could see > the collection that I was responsible for changing before my eyes. Vinyl > records became brittle, Audio tape would bind, and compact discs would > also > go through a similar change. If you have a reel to reel tape machine it is > always advised that you store the tape tail out, and in this way you will > avoid the tape sticking when you play it back, as you have to rewind the > tape before playing. How many of us do that?. . . . . . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:00 AM > Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder > > >> But flash does have a limited shelf life, from my understanding, just >> like >> any other storage. Certainly, the number of times it can be rewritten is >> limited. >> >> Bruce >> >> -- >> Bruce Toews >> Skype ID: o.canada >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com >> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net >> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net >> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >> >> On Thu, 31 May 2007, Gary Wood wrote: >> >>> I think that flash could be the new standard. After all, with flash, I >>> think there are no moving parts to wear out. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:29 AM >>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >>> >>> >>>> The key word here is back up everything on another drive. or to go >>>> flash. >>>> Do >>>> you really think that radio stations, for an example have all of their >>>> music, jingles, and commercial content only on one drive? I think not. >>>> Believe me, if it's mechanical it will fail. The question is when? >>>> Mind >>>> you, hard drive technology has improved over the years and is more >>>> reliable, >>>> but as stated earlier in this post it is mechanical, and given time it >>>> will >>>> crash. Audio tape isn't an exact science either, as it too will break >>>> down >>>> over time. . Most of us do not have the technology to preserve the >>>> storage >>>> of electronic media in our homes. >>>> I am talking about the storage of materials on magnetic tape. Although >>>> compact discs have proven to be very reliable so far, we have no idea >>>> how >>>> long they will last, as they have only been around since the mid 80's. >>>> Personally it is my feeling that flash memory will soon become the >>>> standard. >>>> There are memory sticks on the market that will hold up to 700 of those >>>> old >>>> floppies that most of us grew up with, and the price of these sticks is >>>> quite reasonable too at around 15 dollars Canadian when on sale. . . >>>> . >>>> . . . . . >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:23 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Bob. Here's a question: If everyone gives up CD's and tapes for a >>>>> harddrive, if you put all your stored music on it from many years of >>>>> listening, what if the drive crashes, and then you lose everything you >>>>> have, >>>>> short of copying to another harddrive recording system? >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:24 PM >>>>> Subject: Revox cassette recorder >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The Revox cassette recorder that you are probably looking for is the >>>>>> model >>>>>> 710. >>>>>> Nakimichi made two professional cassette recorders in the 70's. The >>>>>> 1000, >>>>>> and the cheaper 700. I personally have the 700 model. It is a >>>>>> solenoid >>>>>> machine with three motors with Dolby, echo, and a oscillator for tape >>>>>> alignment. The thinking here is that there are no two cassettes alike >>>>>> despite how stringent manufacturing might be. By using the tone for >>>>>> alignment you could be assured of a perfect recording all of the >>>>>> time. >>>>>> . >>>>>> The >>>>>> 700 even comes with a wired remote control. This company also made a >>>>>> portable 600 model which was very good for field recording. >>>>>> You may also want to look at Tascam. Tascam is the professional line >>>>>> of >>>>>> Teac. If I had my druthers and wanted to stick with the audio tape >>>>>> format I would much rather use R-dat. The problem here is that R-dat >>>>>> is >>>>>> used >>>>>> professionally, and unfortunately did not catch on with the public as >>>>>> expected. It has been rumoured in the audio file community that CD's >>>>>> are >>>>>> now >>>>>> on the way out in favour of audio being put on flash cards and hard >>>>>> drives. >>>>>> It truly makes sense, as you can now get a 500 GB external hard drive >>>>>> for >>>>>> about 150 bucks. One could virtually have their entire record >>>>>> collection >>>>>> on >>>>>> one portable drive to take anywhere. Most commercial radio stations >>>>>> now >>>>>> have >>>>>> their entire music library on hard drives. >>>>>> >>>>>> " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:30 PM >>>>>> Subject: audio cassette squeel problem >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> The last thing that you want to do is to amerce your cassette in >>>>>>> water. >>>>>>> Make sure that anything that comes in contact with the audio tape is >>>>>>> clean >>>>>>> such as the tape transport, capstan, pinch roller, and record and >>>>>>> playback >>>>>>> heads. Once that is done, and the tape still squeeks then you may >>>>>>> want >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> try the following. >>>>>>> Tape Baking >>>>>>> When magnetic recording tapes are being stored, moisture is slowly >>>>>>> absorbed by the binder that holds the components of the tape >>>>>>> together. >>>>>>> Affected tapes will squeak when played back. The squeaking can be >>>>>>> heard >>>>>>> directly from the tape passing over the playback head and other >>>>>>> fixed >>>>>>> parts of the player, but is also transmitted electronically through >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> playback head. Often the tape will also sound dull and distorted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you hear a tape that is squeaking, stop playing the tape >>>>>>> immediately. >>>>>>> Continuing to play a squeaking tape can cause permanent damage to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> tape, and in some cases damage to the player. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This problem can happen to any tape, but is more common in tapes >>>>>>> manufactured after the mid 1970s in the USA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The solution to the problem of squeaking tapes is to bake the tapes >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> very low temperature in an oven. There are as many different >>>>>>> opinions >>>>>>> about optimum temperature and duration of baking as there are audio >>>>>>> engineers. Certainly, do not attempt to bake your own tapes unless >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> be certain that the temperature in your oven will not exceed 60 >>>>>>> degrees >>>>>>> Celsius >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CD ROM Services Pty Ltd offers a tape baking service, and although >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> successfully baked well over a hundred tapes, and haven't damaged >>>>>>> one, >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> will take all care in baking your tapes, but cannot take >>>>>>> responsibility >>>>>>> for accidental damage. 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