I always wondered how the cart knew. Thanks for the info. Bruce
-- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 31 May 2007, Bob Seed wrote: > Probably not, as you haven't been around long enough. > Used in the 1950's when tape recorders were first available to the public. > Then there is the wire recorder. 8 track tapes and machines were a spin-off > of the type of audio that was, and still is used in some commercial radio > stations to this day. In the case of commercial radio the cart, is what the > call it is about half the thickness of an 8 track cartridge.One track is for > audio, and the second track is a cue track that has a tone on it that tells > the player to stop when the commercial or jingle is finished. . . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder > > >> I've never seen paper tape used for audio! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:05 AM >> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >> >> >>> I guess the rule here is that if it ain't etched in stone it's not >>> permanent, and even stone will wear down. Archiving audio and video files >>> for long periods of time have always been an issue. Photographs fade, and >>> audio tape becomes brittle, and if not properly taken care of will >>> discinigrate. Apparently audio tape that was made in the mid to late 70's >>> was inferior to the audio tape that was manufactured in the 60's. Believe >>> it >>> or not paper audio tape held up rather well over the years. It is hard to >>> find and is still out there in someone's audio file. There really isn't a >>> permanent solution. to the safe storage of audio and video files for >>> long >>> periods of time. I was a music librarian for over 20 years, and could see >>> the collection that I was responsible for changing before my eyes. Vinyl >>> records became brittle, Audio tape would bind, and compact discs would >>> also >>> go through a similar change. If you have a reel to reel tape machine it >>> is >>> always advised that you store the tape tail out, and in this way you will >>> avoid the tape sticking when you play it back, as you have to rewind the >>> tape before playing. How many of us do that?. . . . . . >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:00 AM >>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >>> >>> >>>> But flash does have a limited shelf life, from my understanding, just >>>> like >>>> any other storage. Certainly, the number of times it can be rewritten is >>>> limited. >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bruce Toews >>>> Skype ID: o.canada >>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com >>>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net >>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net >>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >>>> >>>> On Thu, 31 May 2007, Gary Wood wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think that flash could be the new standard. After all, with flash, I >>>>> think there are no moving parts to wear out. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:29 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The key word here is back up everything on another drive. or to go >>>>>> flash. >>>>>> Do >>>>>> you really think that radio stations, for an example have all of >>>>>> their >>>>>> music, jingles, and commercial content only on one drive? I think not. >>>>>> Believe me, if it's mechanical it will fail. The question is when? >>>>>> Mind >>>>>> you, hard drive technology has improved over the years and is more >>>>>> reliable, >>>>>> but as stated earlier in this post it is mechanical, and given time it >>>>>> will >>>>>> crash. Audio tape isn't an exact science either, as it too will break >>>>>> down >>>>>> over time. . Most of us do not have the technology to preserve the >>>>>> storage >>>>>> of electronic media in our homes. >>>>>> I am talking about the storage of materials on magnetic tape. Although >>>>>> compact discs have proven to be very reliable so far, we have no idea >>>>>> how >>>>>> long they will last, as they have only been around since the mid 80's. >>>>>> Personally it is my feeling that flash memory will soon become the >>>>>> standard. >>>>>> There are memory sticks on the market that will hold up to 700 of >>>>>> those >>>>>> old >>>>>> floppies that most of us grew up with, and the price of these sticks >>>>>> is >>>>>> quite reasonable too at around 15 dollars Canadian when on sale. . >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> . . . . . >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:23 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Revox cassette recorder >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Bob. Here's a question: If everyone gives up CD's and tapes for >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> harddrive, if you put all your stored music on it from many years of >>>>>>> listening, what if the drive crashes, and then you lose everything >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have, >>>>>>> short of copying to another harddrive recording system? >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:24 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Revox cassette recorder >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Revox cassette recorder that you are probably looking for is >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> model >>>>>>>> 710. >>>>>>>> Nakimichi made two professional cassette recorders in the 70's. The >>>>>>>> 1000, >>>>>>>> and the cheaper 700. I personally have the 700 model. It is a >>>>>>>> solenoid >>>>>>>> machine with three motors with Dolby, echo, and a oscillator for >>>>>>>> tape >>>>>>>> alignment. The thinking here is that there are no two cassettes >>>>>>>> alike >>>>>>>> despite how stringent manufacturing might be. By using the tone for >>>>>>>> alignment you could be assured of a perfect recording all of the >>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> 700 even comes with a wired remote control. This company also made a >>>>>>>> portable 600 model which was very good for field recording. >>>>>>>> You may also want to look at Tascam. Tascam is the professional line >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> Teac. If I had my druthers and wanted to stick with the audio tape >>>>>>>> format I would much rather use R-dat. The problem here is that R-dat >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>> professionally, and unfortunately did not catch on with the public >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> expected. It has been rumoured in the audio file community that CD's >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>> on the way out in favour of audio being put on flash cards and hard >>>>>>>> drives. >>>>>>>> It truly makes sense, as you can now get a 500 GB external hard >>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> about 150 bucks. One could virtually have their entire record >>>>>>>> collection >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> one portable drive to take anywhere. Most commercial radio stations >>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> their entire music library on hard drives. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:30 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: audio cassette squeel problem >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The last thing that you want to do is to amerce your cassette in >>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>> Make sure that anything that comes in contact with the audio tape >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> clean >>>>>>>>> such as the tape transport, capstan, pinch roller, and record and >>>>>>>>> playback >>>>>>>>> heads. Once that is done, and the tape still squeeks then you may >>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> try the following. >>>>>>>>> Tape Baking >>>>>>>>> When magnetic recording tapes are being stored, moisture is slowly >>>>>>>>> absorbed by the binder that holds the components of the tape >>>>>>>>> together. >>>>>>>>> Affected tapes will squeak when played back. The squeaking can be >>>>>>>>> heard >>>>>>>>> directly from the tape passing over the playback head and other >>>>>>>>> fixed >>>>>>>>> parts of the player, but is also transmitted electronically through >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> playback head. Often the tape will also sound dull and distorted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you hear a tape that is squeaking, stop playing the tape >>>>>>>>> immediately. >>>>>>>>> Continuing to play a squeaking tape can cause permanent damage to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> tape, and in some cases damage to the player. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This problem can happen to any tape, but is more common in tapes >>>>>>>>> manufactured after the mid 1970s in the USA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The solution to the problem of squeaking tapes is to bake the tapes >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> very low temperature in an oven. There are as many different >>>>>>>>> opinions >>>>>>>>> about optimum temperature and duration of baking as there are audio >>>>>>>>> engineers. 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