It's the FLAC versus WMA lossless comparison that I'd like to make. I 
understand the comparisons with lossy compression and/or with wave files. 
Thanks.
bruce

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote:

> Hi Bruce.
>
> I've never used Flak so can't give a comparison as such but comparing WMA
> lossless to WAV, typically the WAV file will be encoded at around 1,300kbps
> whereas the WMA lossless will typically have been compressed to around
> 900kpbs with no change to sound quality obviously.
>
> As an example, Bruce Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A. is approximately 31
> Meg in size when encoded in WMA lossless for the 4 and a half minutes track
> duration.  The same file ripped at 320kbps in MP3 is 11 meg in size as a
> comparison and I'd expect the WAV file to be around 35 to 40 meg.
>
> Regards.
>
> Kevin
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio
>
>
>> What about the size of compression, how does Flac and Windows Media
>> compare? If both are lossless, I'll go with whichever is smallest, period.
>> My pro-FLAC bias is based on the simple fact that it was the first
>> lossless compression I ever saw.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
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>>
>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Scott Blanks wrote:
>>
>>> I don't often limit myself to a "me too" message, but Kevin has made
> nothing
>>> but good points in his post. I too have found that, when talking to
> people
>>> who prefer flak, more often than not they tend to be anti-microsoft,
> rather
>>> than for flak for a good reason. Go WMA.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bruce.
>>>
>>> The obvious advantages are:
>>> WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
>>> format to MP3
>>> WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music
> databases
>>> for managing music collections
>>> WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
>>> programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of
> any
>>> that will do this for Flak
>>> WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on
> the
>>> comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
>>> based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.
> The
>>> fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
>>> recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as
> WMA.
>>> It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you
> can't
>>> sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to
> adopt
>>> a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best
> file
>>> size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and
> have
>>> switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my
> computer,
>>> on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
>>> collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
>>> absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Kevin
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:26 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio
>>>
>>>
>>> Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
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