Thanks, Bruce - it'll be interesting to see your results. Regards.
Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:44 PM Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio > Thanks for the offer. Some time I'll just sit down and try the conversion > with both myself and report back. > > Bruce > > -- > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he > gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV > > Bruce Toews > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > > On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote: > > > Hi Bruce. > > > > Yes, as I said I've never used Flak and so was hoping the Bruce Springsteen > > example I provided may have been a track in your Flak collection that you > > could have compared with the 31 meg WMA lossless. > > > > I have plenty of other examples if you have a Flak track you'd like to > > compare, including some great Canadian musicians > > Rush > > and > > Bryan Adams > > > > Basically, any rock track you have in Flak, it's likely I'll have in my > > 8,000 WMA lossless collection and can let you know how much space is used > > for that track. > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Kevin > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:07 PM > > Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio > > > > > >> It's the FLAC versus WMA lossless comparison that I'd like to make. I > >> understand the comparisons with lossy compression and/or with wave files. > >> Thanks. > >> bruce > >> > >> -- > >> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he > >> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV > >> > >> Bruce Toews > >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net > >> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > >> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > >> > >> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Bruce. > >>> > >>> I've never used Flak so can't give a comparison as such but comparing > > WMA > >>> lossless to WAV, typically the WAV file will be encoded at around > > 1,300kbps > >>> whereas the WMA lossless will typically have been compressed to around > >>> 900kpbs with no change to sound quality obviously. > >>> > >>> As an example, Bruce Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A. is approximately > > 31 > >>> Meg in size when encoded in WMA lossless for the 4 and a half minutes > > track > >>> duration. The same file ripped at 320kbps in MP3 is 11 meg in size as a > >>> comparison and I'd expect the WAV file to be around 35 to 40 meg. > >>> > >>> Regards. > >>> > >>> Kevin > >>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:53 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio > >>> > >>> > >>>> What about the size of compression, how does Flac and Windows Media > >>>> compare? If both are lossless, I'll go with whichever is smallest, > > period. > >>>> My pro-FLAC bias is based on the simple fact that it was the first > >>>> lossless compression I ever saw. > >>>> > >>>> Bruce > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he > >>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV > >>>> > >>>> Bruce Toews > >>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net > >>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): > > http://www.ogts.net > >>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Scott Blanks wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I don't often limit myself to a "me too" message, but Kevin has made > >>> nothing > >>>>> but good points in his post. I too have found that, when talking to > >>> people > >>>>> who prefer flak, more often than not they tend to be anti-microsoft, > >>> rather > >>>>> than for flak for a good reason. Go WMA. > >>>>> > >>>>> Scott > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:46 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Bruce. > >>>>> > >>>>> The obvious advantages are: > >>>>> WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most > > supported > >>>>> format to MP3 > >>>>> WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music > >>> databases > >>>>> for managing music collections > >>>>> WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software > >>>>> programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of > >>> any > >>>>> that will do this for Flak > >>>>> WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here > > on > >>> the > >>>>> comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very > > anti-Microsoft > >>>>> based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based. > >>> The > >>>>> fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks > > the > >>>>> recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as > >>> WMA. > >>>>> It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you > >>> can't > >>>>> sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to > >>> adopt > >>>>> a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the > > best > >>> file > >>>>> size. I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years > > and > >>> have > >>>>> switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my > >>> computer, > >>>>> on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi. It was painful to rip my > >>>>> collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality > > is > >>>>> absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards. > >>>>> > >>>>> Kevin > >>>>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:26 PM > >>>>> Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa? > >>>>> > >>>>> Bruce > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >>>> http://www.pc-audio.org > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists > > we > >>> offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >>> http://www.pc-audio.org > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. 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