Thanks for the offer. Some time I'll just sit down and try the conversion with both myself and report back.
Bruce -- Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote: > Hi Bruce. > > Yes, as I said I've never used Flak and so was hoping the Bruce Springsteen > example I provided may have been a track in your Flak collection that you > could have compared with the 31 meg WMA lossless. > > I have plenty of other examples if you have a Flak track you'd like to > compare, including some great Canadian musicians > Rush > and > Bryan Adams > > Basically, any rock track you have in Flak, it's likely I'll have in my > 8,000 WMA lossless collection and can let you know how much space is used > for that track. > > Regards. > > > Kevin > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:07 PM > Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio > > >> It's the FLAC versus WMA lossless comparison that I'd like to make. I >> understand the comparisons with lossy compression and/or with wave files. >> Thanks. >> bruce >> >> -- >> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he >> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV >> >> Bruce Toews >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net >> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net >> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >> >> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote: >> >>> Hi Bruce. >>> >>> I've never used Flak so can't give a comparison as such but comparing > WMA >>> lossless to WAV, typically the WAV file will be encoded at around > 1,300kbps >>> whereas the WMA lossless will typically have been compressed to around >>> 900kpbs with no change to sound quality obviously. >>> >>> As an example, Bruce Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A. is approximately > 31 >>> Meg in size when encoded in WMA lossless for the 4 and a half minutes > track >>> duration. The same file ripped at 320kbps in MP3 is 11 meg in size as a >>> comparison and I'd expect the WAV file to be around 35 to 40 meg. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> Kevin >>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio >>> >>> >>>> What about the size of compression, how does Flac and Windows Media >>>> compare? If both are lossless, I'll go with whichever is smallest, > period. >>>> My pro-FLAC bias is based on the simple fact that it was the first >>>> lossless compression I ever saw. >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he >>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV >>>> >>>> Bruce Toews >>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net >>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): > http://www.ogts.net >>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >>>> >>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Scott Blanks wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't often limit myself to a "me too" message, but Kevin has made >>> nothing >>>>> but good points in his post. I too have found that, when talking to >>> people >>>>> who prefer flak, more often than not they tend to be anti-microsoft, >>> rather >>>>> than for flak for a good reason. Go WMA. >>>>> >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:46 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Bruce. >>>>> >>>>> The obvious advantages are: >>>>> WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most > supported >>>>> format to MP3 >>>>> WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music >>> databases >>>>> for managing music collections >>>>> WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software >>>>> programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of >>> any >>>>> that will do this for Flak >>>>> WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here > on >>> the >>>>> comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very > anti-Microsoft >>>>> based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based. >>> The >>>>> fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks > the >>>>> recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as >>> WMA. >>>>> It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you >>> can't >>>>> sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to >>> adopt >>>>> a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the > best >>> file >>>>> size. I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years > and >>> have >>>>> switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my >>> computer, >>>>> on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi. It was painful to rip my >>>>> collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality > is >>>>> absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded. >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:26 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa? >>>>> >>>>> Bruce >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists > we >>> offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. 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