Hi Bruce. Yes, as I said I've never used Flak and so was hoping the Bruce Springsteen example I provided may have been a track in your Flak collection that you could have compared with the 31 meg WMA lossless.
I have plenty of other examples if you have a Flak track you'd like to compare, including some great Canadian musicians Rush and Bryan Adams Basically, any rock track you have in Flak, it's likely I'll have in my 8,000 WMA lossless collection and can let you know how much space is used for that track. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio > It's the FLAC versus WMA lossless comparison that I'd like to make. I > understand the comparisons with lossy compression and/or with wave files. > Thanks. > bruce > > -- > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he > gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV > > Bruce Toews > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > > On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote: > > > Hi Bruce. > > > > I've never used Flak so can't give a comparison as such but comparing WMA > > lossless to WAV, typically the WAV file will be encoded at around 1,300kbps > > whereas the WMA lossless will typically have been compressed to around > > 900kpbs with no change to sound quality obviously. > > > > As an example, Bruce Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A. is approximately 31 > > Meg in size when encoded in WMA lossless for the 4 and a half minutes track > > duration. The same file ripped at 320kbps in MP3 is 11 meg in size as a > > comparison and I'd expect the WAV file to be around 35 to 40 meg. > > > > Regards. > > > > Kevin > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:53 PM > > Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio > > > > > >> What about the size of compression, how does Flac and Windows Media > >> compare? If both are lossless, I'll go with whichever is smallest, period. > >> My pro-FLAC bias is based on the simple fact that it was the first > >> lossless compression I ever saw. > >> > >> Bruce > >> > >> -- > >> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he > >> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV > >> > >> Bruce Toews > >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net > >> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > >> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > >> > >> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Scott Blanks wrote: > >> > >>> I don't often limit myself to a "me too" message, but Kevin has made > > nothing > >>> but good points in his post. I too have found that, when talking to > > people > >>> who prefer flak, more often than not they tend to be anti-microsoft, > > rather > >>> than for flak for a good reason. Go WMA. > >>> > >>> Scott > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:46 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Bruce. > >>> > >>> The obvious advantages are: > >>> WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported > >>> format to MP3 > >>> WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music > > databases > >>> for managing music collections > >>> WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software > >>> programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of > > any > >>> that will do this for Flak > >>> WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on > > the > >>> comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft > >>> based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based. > > The > >>> fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the > >>> recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as > > WMA. > >>> It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you > > can't > >>> sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to > > adopt > >>> a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best > > file > >>> size. I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and > > have > >>> switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my > > computer, > >>> on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi. It was painful to rip my > >>> collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is > >>> absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded. > >>> > >>> Regards. > >>> > >>> Kevin > >>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:26 PM > >>> Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio > >>> > >>> > >>> Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa? > >>> > >>> Bruce > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >> http://www.pc-audio.org > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. 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