Hi Tim, On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 06:39:46PM +1100, Tim Serong wrote: > On 12/14/2011 02:57 AM, Dejan Muhamedagic wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 04:18:33PM +0800, Gao,Yan wrote: > >>On 12/13/11 04:25, Andrew Beekhof wrote: > >>>On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Gao,Yan<y...@suse.com> wrote: > >>>>On 12/12/11 17:52, Florian Haas wrote: > >>>>>On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Gao,Yan<y...@suse.com> wrote: > >>>>>>On 12/12/11 17:16, Florian Haas wrote: > >>>>>>>On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Gao,Yan<y...@suse.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>On 12/12/11 15:55, Gao,Yan wrote: > >>>>>>>>>Hi, > >>>>>>>>>As some people have noticed, we've provided a new feature "Resource > >>>>>>>>>templates" since pacemaker-1.1.6. I made a document about it which is > >>>>>>>>>meant to be included into "Pacemaker_Explained". I borrowed the > >>>>>>>>>materials from Tanja Roth , Thomas Schraitle, (-- the documentation > >>>>>>>>>specialists from SUSE) and Dejan Muhamedagic. Thanks to them! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Attaching it here first. If you are interested, please help review > >>>>>>>>>it. > >>>>>>>>>And if anyone would like to help convert it into DocBook and made a > >>>>>>>>>patch, I would be much appreciate. :-) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>I can tell people would like to see a crm shell version of it as > >>>>>>>>>well. > >>>>>>>>>I'll sort it out and post it here soon. > >>>>>>>>Attached the crm shell version of the document. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>As much as I appreciate the new feature, was it really necessary that > >>>>>>>you re-used a term that already has a defined meaning in the shell? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/crm_cli.html#_templates > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Couldn't you have called them "resource prototypes" instead? We've > >>>>>>>already confused users enough in the past. > >>>>>>Since Dejan adopted the object name "rsc_template" in crm shell, and > >>>>>>call it "Resource template" in the help. I'm not inclined to use another > >>>>>>term in the document. Opinion, Dejan? > >>>>> > >>>>>I didn't mean to suggest to use a term in the documentation that's > >>>>>different from the one the shell uses. I am suggesting to rename the > >>>>>feature altogether. Granted, it may be a bit late to have a naming > >>>>>discussion now, but I haven't seen this feature discussed on the list > >>>>>at all, so there wasn't really a chance to voice these concerns > >>>>>sooner. > >>>>Actually there were discussions in pcmk-devel mailing list. Given that > >>>>it has been included into "pacemaker-1.2" schema and released with > >>>>pacemaker-1.1.6, it seems too late for us to change it from cib side > >>>>now > >>> > >>>Technically its not yet in the 1.2 area, that change was pending on > >>>this documentation update. > >>OK then. I would like to hear more voices about that, since Dejan and > >>Tim have been working on this for quite some time too. > > > >Well, I believe that we already discussed the name. And there > >were no better ideas heard. But it could as well be that my > >memory fails me. > > I don't recall any better naming ideas floating past either > (although, now that Florian mentions "prototype", hmm...)
prototype sounds good. BTW, shell supports aliases, so one command can have multiple names. > Anyway, IMO, overloading the word "template" isn't /too/ bad. It > could be qualified if necessary as "resource template" (the new > feature we're talking about here) and "configuration template" > (existing shell feature)... Indeed. The other (shell) templates are complete configurations. Cheers, Dejan > Regards, > > Tim > -- > Tim Serong > Senior Clustering Engineer > SUSE > tser...@suse.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pacemaker mailing list: Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org > http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker > > Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org > Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf > Bugs: http://bugs.clusterlabs.org _______________________________________________ Pacemaker mailing list: Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf Bugs: http://bugs.clusterlabs.org
