Hi Eliot,

Thank you for addressing these. Please find some additional comments:

1. I created a PR for some minor points: 
https://github.com/elear/opsawg-ol/pull/3/files: TLP + follow the guidance for 
the list names.

2. I know that you don’t use the security template in 8520, but given that you 
are introducing a reusable module I think that you should include it this time. 
In particular, please see the template of the reusable grouping here: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-11#name-security-considerations-sect
 (see the last two para).

3. From a YANG standpoint, I think that defining an “ol” feature would be 
cleaner than the current use of “extensions”. I know that this is inherited 
from 8520, but a clarification is needed here, especially that the grouping is 
a reusable one.

4. You may check with netmod whether they have any preference about keeping the 
ol grouping as part of the mud extension or be defined as a separate module.

Cheers,
Med

De : Eliot Lear <l...@lear.ch>
Envoyé : samedi 27 avril 2024 13:22
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>; Michael 
Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>; opsawg@ietf.org; m...@ietf.org
Objet : Re: [Mud] [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-ol-05.txt


Hi Med,

I attempted to whack your changes into the draft.  Carsten's merged the copy, 
so for ease of reading (and diffing) I'll post an update for your 
consideration.  Michael, I don't think it's necessary in this case to update 
8520 because we are indeed creating a new namespace.  However, this wasn't 
properly indicated in the draft.

Eliot
On 23.04.2024 08:40, 
mohamed.boucad...@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange.com> wrote:

Hi all,



Like Michael, I'm puzzled about the development of this draft.



I raised comments back in 05/2021 that I reiterated during the call for 
adoption: 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/OlkjFOk55hB-29UG4FQaNbunXTY/ but 
still see the same issues in 2024. Putting aside the list/leaf-list thing, the 
other points are straightforward such as fixing a json example.



Cheers,

Med



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Envoyé : lundi 22 avril 2024 20:02

À : Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca><mailto:mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>; 
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Objet : Re: [OPSAWG] [Mud] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-ol-

05.txt





On 22.04.2024 19:29, Michael Richardson wrote:

0) Why is this document still kicking around the WG?

    (Too bad it doesn't have the word "mud" in the filename.)



1) I find the title confusing.



2) I don't think that AUGMENT does what you want, because YANG

is not

extensible in the way we are used to doing with IANA.



3) I think that you have to revise the MUD specification

itself.



internet-dra...@ietf.org<mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org> wrote:

     > Internet-Draft draft-ietf-opsawg-ol-05.txt is now

available. It is a work item

     > of the Operations and Management Area Working Group

(OPSAWG) WG of the IETF.



     > Title:   Ownership and licensing statements in YANG

     > Authors: Eliot Lear

     > Carsten Bormann

     > Name:    draft-ietf-opsawg-ol-05.txt

     > Pages:   8

     > Dates:   2024-04-18



     > Abstract:



     > This memo provides for an extension to RFC 8520 that

allows MUD file

     > authors to specify ownership and licensing of MUD files

themselves.

     > This memo updates RFC 8520.  However, it can also be

used for

     > purposes outside of MUD, and the grouping is structured

as such.



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