On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Doug Hellmann wrote:

If we want to do that, we should change the rules because we put
the current set of rules in place specifically to encourage more
project teams to join officially. We can do that, but that discussion
deserves its own thread.

(Yeah, that's why I changed the subject header: Indicate change of
subject, but maintain references.)

I'm not sure what the right thing to do is, but I do think there's a
good opportunity to review what various initiatives (big tent, death
to stackforge, tags, governance changes, cross-project work) are trying
to accomplish, whether they are succeeding, what the unintended
consequences have been.

For the example of Poppy, there is nothing that requires it be a part
of OpenStack for it to be useful to OpenStack nor for it to exist as
a valuable part of the open source world.

Nor is there for lots of our existing official projects. Which ones
should we remove?

The heartless rationalist in me says "most of them". The nicer guy
says "this set is grandfathered, henceforth we're more strict".

A reason _I_[1] think we need to limit things is because from the
outside OpenStack doesn't really look like anything that you can put
a short description on. It's more murky than that and it is hard to
experience positive progress in a fog. Many people react to this fog
by focusing on their specific project rather than OpenStack at
large: At least there they can see their impact.

This results in increasing the fog because cross-project concerns (which
help unify the vision and actuality that is OpenStack) get less
attention and the cycle deepens.

[1] Other people, some reasonable, some not, will have different
opinions. Yay!
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