"Mitaka" seems very beautiful name. I am pretty sure it will be really beautiful city as Michael described. Anyway, I will follow any process to pick the name.
As long as I know, there has already been active discussion on versioning. Switching from year-based policy to sem versioning. For the release name, although it can create unexpected debate like this one, I personally think using word can have its own benefit. If the number is everything to describe a release, it is less fun for sure. =) I am pretty sure we can come up with better way to have our release name. I will actively participate such discussion. Cheers, Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D. member of OpenStack Community.. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:58 PM Michael Micucci <micu...@midokura.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > #4 was Mitaka (三鷹, meaning "three hawks"), I believe? > > Mitaka is a very beautiful city, if I may say so (I lived there, so I'm > a bit biased :)), with Inokashira Park, a zoo, and many walking trails. > Plus, the Ghibli Museum is there, which celebrates a very famous and > well-loved animation studio throughout the world, with a similar > pedigree to Disney in the U.S.A. (such as Spirited Away, Howl's Moving > Castle, Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind, My Neighbor Totoro, among > many other great films) With animation being a world-wide export from > Japan, it seems like a nice (and current) thing to celebrate. > > I'd like to support Iwamoto-san's proposal in the interest of peace and > cooperation between our international communities, and suggest we switch > to "Mitaka." > > I just hope there are no legal problems with this name as well. :) > > Sincerely, > > Michael Micucci > > > On 07/08/2015 02:31 PM, IWAMOTO Toshihiro wrote: > > It is totally understandable that the combination of "Japan" and > > "Meiji" recalls harsh history to some people, especially in East Asia. > > As a Japanese, I'm sorry for that. > > > > I think the release naming process should not cause such friction. > > Could we just select some other neutral candidate name instead? > > > > At Wed, 08 Jul 2015 04:40:58 +0000, > > Jaesuk Ahn wrote: > >> Dear OpenStack Community, > >> > >> As Clint mentioned, there is some historical background regarding the > name > >> of "Meiji". > >> > >> I have been aware of the potential problem with "Meiji", however, I have > >> not raise my voice here since it was not the top of the list. > >> However, with current situation, IMHO, it is better to present my > concern > >> over this name. > >> > >> It was briefly mentioned in the previous email thread. > >> Once again, please understand that the name "Meiji" can create some > >> historical debate in East Asia, especially in Korea. Under the name of > >> Emperor Meiji, Japan forcefully colonized Korea. Lots of people in Korea > >> suffered during the colonization. Furthermore, this history is not the > one > >> only exists on the book. This is actually very recent event in terms of > >> history. > >> > >> FYI, there is a wiki entry: > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule > >> If you look at "legacy" section in the above wiki entry, you will > >> understand what I am referring to. > >> > >> I am not saying the word "Meiji" is bad in general. I just want to state > >> that this word can cause very negative feeling to some people in East > Asia. > >> > >> I totally value the community's process and rules. I recognize that > process > >> to select "Meiji" itself was not the problem at all. > >> However, I am sincerely asking the community to acknowledge my concern > over > >> this name, and please put some effort as a community to avoid any > >> unnecessary debate. > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Best wishes for everyone here in the community. > >> > >> > >> Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D. > >> member of OpenStack Community and OpenStack Korea User Group. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:24 AM Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > >> > >>> http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_meiji.htm > >>> > >>> There's a summary of what Meiji might mean to historians. I'm not sure > if > >>> OpenStack needs to be too concerned about this, but I believe this is > what > >>> Ian is referring to as "historical and political debates in East Asia." > >>> > >>> Seems like a hot-button name for OpenStack to adopt. > >>> > >>> Excerpts from Ian Y. Choi's message of 2015-07-07 05:40:52 -0700: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> I think the third name 'Meiji' may arise some historical and political > >>>> debates in East Asia, as far as I know. > >>>> > >>>> Could you share what significant identified problems are on the first > two > >>>> selected from our election? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> With many thanks, > >>>> > >>>> /Ian > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Masayuki Igawa < > masayuki.ig...@gmail.com > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> # I'm a native Japanese speaker :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> 2015年7月7日(火) 20:33 Amrith Kumar <amr...@tesora.com>: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Maybe this (the google answer)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvw0A12aOGQ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yeah, this is correct pronunciation. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> But someone who is a native Japanese speaker should confirm. > >>>>>> > >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vwge557hY > >>>>> I think this is a casual version and Japanese people are familiar > with > >>>>> this. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> -- Masayuki Igawa > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> -amrith > >>>>>> > >>>>>> P.S. the yahoo answer suggests that you pronounce it as "Meh - gee" > >>> with > >>>>>> the emphasis on the "meh" ;) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Matthias Runge [mailto:mru...@redhat.com] > >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:08 AM > >>>>>> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) - Our next release > >>> name > >>>>>> has been selected > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 11:48:13PM -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: > >>>>>>> significant identified problems... but the third in the list, Meiji > >>> (明 > >>>>>>> 治) is clear. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So please join me in welcoming the latest name to our family ... > and > >>>>>>> if you, like me, are not a native Japanese speaker, in learning two > >>>>>>> new characters. > >>>>>> Could someone provide a hint please, how to pronounce this properly? > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Matthias Runge <mru...@redhat.com> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >>>>>> Unsubscribe: > >>>>>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>>>>> > >>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >>>>>> Unsubscribe: > >>>>>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> -- Masayuki Igawa > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >>>>> Unsubscribe: > >>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >>> Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>> > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >
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