Dear all,
#4 was Mitaka (三鷹, meaning "three hawks"), I believe?
Mitaka is a very beautiful city, if I may say so (I lived there, so I'm
a bit biased :)), with Inokashira Park, a zoo, and many walking trails.
Plus, the Ghibli Museum is there, which celebrates a very famous and
well-loved animation studio throughout the world, with a similar
pedigree to Disney in the U.S.A. (such as Spirited Away, Howl's Moving
Castle, Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind, My Neighbor Totoro, among
many other great films) With animation being a world-wide export from
Japan, it seems like a nice (and current) thing to celebrate.
I'd like to support Iwamoto-san's proposal in the interest of peace and
cooperation between our international communities, and suggest we switch
to "Mitaka."
I just hope there are no legal problems with this name as well. :)
Sincerely,
Michael Micucci
On 07/08/2015 02:31 PM, IWAMOTO Toshihiro wrote:
It is totally understandable that the combination of "Japan" and
"Meiji" recalls harsh history to some people, especially in East Asia.
As a Japanese, I'm sorry for that.
I think the release naming process should not cause such friction.
Could we just select some other neutral candidate name instead?
At Wed, 08 Jul 2015 04:40:58 +0000,
Jaesuk Ahn wrote:
Dear OpenStack Community,
As Clint mentioned, there is some historical background regarding the name
of "Meiji".
I have been aware of the potential problem with "Meiji", however, I have
not raise my voice here since it was not the top of the list.
However, with current situation, IMHO, it is better to present my concern
over this name.
It was briefly mentioned in the previous email thread.
Once again, please understand that the name "Meiji" can create some
historical debate in East Asia, especially in Korea. Under the name of
Emperor Meiji, Japan forcefully colonized Korea. Lots of people in Korea
suffered during the colonization. Furthermore, this history is not the one
only exists on the book. This is actually very recent event in terms of
history.
FYI, there is a wiki entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule
If you look at "legacy" section in the above wiki entry, you will
understand what I am referring to.
I am not saying the word "Meiji" is bad in general. I just want to state
that this word can cause very negative feeling to some people in East Asia.
I totally value the community's process and rules. I recognize that process
to select "Meiji" itself was not the problem at all.
However, I am sincerely asking the community to acknowledge my concern over
this name, and please put some effort as a community to avoid any
unnecessary debate.
Thank you.
Best wishes for everyone here in the community.
Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D.
member of OpenStack Community and OpenStack Korea User Group.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:24 AM Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote:
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_meiji.htm
There's a summary of what Meiji might mean to historians. I'm not sure if
OpenStack needs to be too concerned about this, but I believe this is what
Ian is referring to as "historical and political debates in East Asia."
Seems like a hot-button name for OpenStack to adopt.
Excerpts from Ian Y. Choi's message of 2015-07-07 05:40:52 -0700:
Hello,
I think the third name 'Meiji' may arise some historical and political
debates in East Asia, as far as I know.
Could you share what significant identified problems are on the first two
selected from our election?
With many thanks,
/Ian
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Masayuki Igawa <masayuki.ig...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
# I'm a native Japanese speaker :-)
2015年7月7日(火) 20:33 Amrith Kumar <amr...@tesora.com>:
Maybe this (the google answer)?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvw0A12aOGQ
Yeah, this is correct pronunciation.
But someone who is a native Japanese speaker should confirm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vwge557hY
I think this is a casual version and Japanese people are familiar with
this.
Thanks,
-- Masayuki Igawa
-amrith
P.S. the yahoo answer suggests that you pronounce it as "Meh - gee"
with
the emphasis on the "meh" ;)
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) - Our next release
name
has been selected
On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 11:48:13PM -0400, Monty Taylor wrote:
significant identified problems... but the third in the list, Meiji
(明
治) is clear.
So please join me in welcoming the latest name to our family ... and
if you, like me, are not a native Japanese speaker, in learning two
new characters.
Could someone provide a hint please, how to pronounce this properly?
--
Matthias Runge <mru...@redhat.com>
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