Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> Well...Solaris 11 express support for production use will be made >> available under the Oracle Premier Support for Operating Systems >> program, maybe those who are enrolled will have access to the source >> code. maybe not. >> > Sol 11 Express is open source for everyone. The only difference is a less > open development cycle, and only releases get opened. So you don't get > insight into the > Do not use Solaris Express. If you must have support, pay it for long term Solaris support - that only makes sense to me for strong minded customer. S.Express is basically closed source but with the parts that will maybe be open. No one assures you with any legal document, that you or anyone else anyone could make Solaris releases by self, out of the code that is available and that ,shockingly, maybe will not be available. Surely you could not take the code and compile that Express thing by yourself (and without closed source parts in a prospect) and that does not sounds much open anymore. It is uncertain for now, when and if and what sources Orcl will be releasing. (Right now, it stopped releasing OS/Net months ago and other products)
Project Illumos (www.illumos.org) is the one that is basically Community-developing and contributing OS/Net consolidation for Solaris-based open source and free distributions, while bringing back changes to Orcl to ensure contributions pays for code releases. If it is releasing like promised (in oral talk not in paper or statement) then there could be a window after Solaris releases, that could give enough time Orlc to monetize, like they are thinking on newer technology in releses, before Community-driven open source distribution catches up (www.Openindiana.org) Problem is that they might think that monetizing more on features could mean widening time gap between binary Solaris releases and code releases and between amount of code they release and unfortunately do not.. General problem for Oracle plan that I see is that it is going to butcher and throw away growing fun base/user base and that they want only paying customers and coding developers. With only difference that I don't see they like independent developers too much and they do not tend to attract them on contributing and advocating. (if they are doing so, tell me please) Seems like they think that it is only Orcl sales workforce that is enough in advocating and selling.. And bad marketing they are making for Oracle , while trying to Kill Opensolaris brand name (apart from binary distribution) is making uncertenty - and that is what competition likes the most. If they do not want brand OpenSolaris: Why not put it under certain controlled rules, available on Community projects to be used and identified as a way of holding Distributions together and Compatible through community-driven specifications for base platform? On the other hand, it was always strange to see one privileged Opensolaris distribution called `Opensolaris` in the first place. Killing OpenSolaris binary distribution as that, could proove actually refreshing, to general amount of contribution that Community around Solaris platform will make in the future.(Based on source openness, of course) Just maybe that can also help differentiate between type1: "paying, consuming" type of users type2: "paying, consuming, contributing, supporting, deploying, spreading, advocating, developing , freely choosing ..and knowing what they are paying and why" Type2 is here because they choose to be Solaris customers that use OPEN source platform and they are part of user community because of their own benefit and future of choosed platform. Type1 does not care about source availability and future of Solaris platform itself, anyway, so they need to pay more for that reason of not contributing, and that is what closed Solaris is for. When you see it like that, it could be understood why Oracle wants just one brand as "Solaris". tehy are selling it, that is their job, and that is logical. As a supporting to Solaris development and use, OpenIndiana distribution is now available as direct community made continuation of previous Opensolaris line, Freely get your oi_147.iso development release, finance development efforts, bring more people in contributing to make it better Solaris from and for community, contribute with bug reports, and writing code directly.. and use it! :) www.openindiana.org www.illumos.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
