On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:39 PM Chris <oi...@bsdos.info> wrote: > On 2021-01-20 13:03, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: > > Am 20.01.21 um 21:47 schrieb Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss: > >> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for > >> making...: > >> > >>> On 2021-01-20 04:09, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote: > >>>> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for > >>>> making...: > >>>> > >>>>> I would love to have XFCE. > >>>>> > >>>>> But as I know, the OI devs will not package other DEs. They stay > >>>>> royal to MATE. > >>>>> > >>>>> You can't found any other DE's packages on the repo. > >>>> > >>>> You might want to review the mailing list archives for this mailing > >>>> list > >>>> to get a clearer understanding of why that is. It's been discussed > >>>> before. > >>>> > >>>> If you or Chris or someone else builds an entire desktop environment > >>>> like Cinnamon and publishes a repo that is kept up to date, I would > >>>> definitely give it a try, at least in a VM. If someone does this and > >>>> keeps it up to date for a long time and continues to contribute to OI, > >>>> I would probably use that as my main desktop environment. > >>>> > >>>> Just building it once, without a commitment to keeping it updated, > >>>> isn't > >>>> good for anyone, though. > >>> TBH The only reason OI isn't my "daily driver" is the DE available. If > I > >>> had XFCE (what I currently use), or better, Cinnamon. I'd have a hard > >>> time > >>> not using OI. Overall I like it better. But I'm (currently) pretty well > >>> committed to FreeBSD as maintainer of some 160 ports, and I create > >>> installs for all my servers && clients. I've been on BSD since Bill Joy > >>> forked 386BSD, and hacked on various NIX' before that. But if I could > >>> cobble up an OI I could justify as a "daily driver", and something I > >>> could > >>> recommend to my clients. I'd make the switch. > >>> Which brings me to why I initiated this thread. Since I need commitment > >>> to justfy *my* commitment. I thought I'd send out a "feeler" to see if > >>> there was any interest. Appears I'm not the only one. So I'm going to > >>> "take the plunge". I'll start gathering all the information I need to > >>> get > >>> all the dots in a line, so I can start production. Any pointers to help > >>> shorten the trajectory would be *greatly* appreciated. As well as > >>> keeping > >>> the wiki working. ;-) > >> > >> I'm indifferent to Xfce, but when you start working on Cinnamon and > deps, > >> that's something that I would be happy to collaborate on and test. > >> oi-dev > >> and the irc channels are your best source for help on porting, > I find IRC stressful while I'm working, and somewhat hard to keep up on > (the threads). FreeBSD has a discord channel > (https://discord.com/channels/) -- IRC but also Web && app based. I find > that pretty darn easy to keep up with, and the (web based) UI really > lends itself to getting things done. Oh, and it's free. Works on yer > so-called smart/handheld devices too. :-) >
We actually have a Discord channel for OI devs already, but IRC has been the primary entry point for newcomers. > >> and I've > >> gotten good feedback in PRs where I've asked questions or been stuck > >> part way through updating or porting a package. > >> > >> Also, rather than the wiki, I would highly recommend > >> > >> http://docs.openindiana.org/ > >> > >> and then "HandBook->Building with oi-userland". That's been migrated > >> from > >> the old wiki page and updated and had some corrections and a few > >> clarifications added. There may still be improvements that could be > >> made, so the first few times through the process, please pay special > >> attention > >> to places where that document misses information or appears > >> incorrect. If > >> you mention the issues on oi-dev, I'll get PRs submitted (or you can, > >> if you fork the docs too) to try improve things. > >> > >> Tim > > I will happily merge enhancements to oi-docs. > > And one more thing: We share the Sun Solaris ancestry with Oracle > > Solaris. Some things have diverted during the last decade but the > > solaris-userland > > repository is a first-class source of information and inspiration. > That's a good point, and I considered it. But I was unsure as to the > extent of any divergence. > > > > Andreas > > > --Chris > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
