On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:19 PM Chris <oi...@bsdos.info> wrote: > On 2021-01-20 12:47, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote: > > In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for > > making...: > > > >> On 2021-01-20 04:09, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote: > >>> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] distribution constructor for > >>> making...: > >>> > >>>> I would love to have XFCE. > >>>> > >>>> But as I know, the OI devs will not package other DEs. They stay > royal to > >>>> MATE. > >>>> > >>>> You can't found any other DE's packages on the repo. > >>> > >>> You might want to review the mailing list archives for this mailing > list > >>> to get a clearer understanding of why that is. It's been discussed > >>> before. > >>> > >>> If you or Chris or someone else builds an entire desktop environment > >>> like Cinnamon and publishes a repo that is kept up to date, I would > >>> definitely give it a try, at least in a VM. If someone does this and > >>> keeps it up to date for a long time and continues to contribute to OI, > >>> I would probably use that as my main desktop environment. > >>> > >>> Just building it once, without a commitment to keeping it updated, > isn't > >>> good for anyone, though. > >> TBH The only reason OI isn't my "daily driver" is the DE available. If I > >> had XFCE (what I currently use), or better, Cinnamon. I'd have a hard > time > >> not using OI. Overall I like it better. But I'm (currently) pretty well > >> committed to FreeBSD as maintainer of some 160 ports, and I create > >> installs for all my servers && clients. I've been on BSD since Bill Joy > >> forked 386BSD, and hacked on various NIX' before that. But if I could > >> cobble up an OI I could justify as a "daily driver", and something I > could > >> recommend to my clients. I'd make the switch. > >> Which brings me to why I initiated this thread. Since I need commitment > >> to justfy *my* commitment. I thought I'd send out a "feeler" to see if > >> there was any interest. Appears I'm not the only one. So I'm going to > >> "take the plunge". I'll start gathering all the information I need to > get > >> all the dots in a line, so I can start production. Any pointers to help > >> shorten the trajectory would be *greatly* appreciated. As well as > keeping > >> the wiki working. ;-) > > > > I'm indifferent to Xfce, but when you start working on Cinnamon and deps, > > that's something that I would be happy to collaborate on and test. > That's my *ideal* target. I really like working in Cinnamon, and want to > transform my current workspace from XFCE to Cinnamon. So I'll definitely > include you in the loop when I start on it. :-) > > oi-dev and the irc channels are your best source for help on porting, > > and I've gotten good feedback in PRs where I've asked questions or been > > stuck part way through updating or porting a package. > > > > Also, rather than the wiki, I would highly recommend > > > > http://docs.openindiana.org/ > > > > and then "HandBook->Building with oi-userland". That's been migrated > from > > the old wiki page and updated and had some corrections and a few > > clarifications added. There may still be improvements that could be > made, > > so the > > first few times through the process, please pay special attention > > to places where that document misses information or appears incorrect. > If > > you mention the issues on oi-dev, I'll get PRs submitted (or you can, > > if you fork the docs too) to try improve things. > In all honesty; OI could *really* use some DOC love -- > consolidation/updating.
I had a devil of a time discovering where the "truth" was located. It's > currently > fragmented, and out-of-date -- mind you, I'm not shaking my finger at > anyone > here. > Just sharing my current struggle in this regard. If it were to get > consolidated. > I think many more might feel inclined to get onboard w/OI. > Trouble is that we called for contributions to migrate and enrich the new documentation but it never gained momentum. I started writing a maintainer's guide on the Wiki before the migration but have absolutely zero time to dedicate to its migration to the new doc system. Alexander did move some pages to: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/tree/oi/hipster/doc > I'm currently using: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland as my > source > of > truth. Having been a (ports/package) maintainer on FreeBSD for some 10yrs. > I'm > finding it enough to read the shell framework to get up to speed. My only > *personal* > nit; is that it's largely bash(1) based. Maybe it's because I'm more used > to > sh(1). > But I find bash to be a bit of a pig, by comparison. But I can get used to > it > -- or > just rewrite all of it in sh(1). ;-) > > Tim, thank you *very* much for all the pointers, and support! :-) > We'll be talking Cinnamon, real soon now. ;-) > > --Chris > > > > Tim > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
