Hi Paolo,

Thanks very much for the patch.  Unfortunately, the OBForceField functions
that you patched are never called at all during the SDF-to-SMILES
conversion process, so the patch doesn't resolve my issue.  OBForceField
only seems to be called if I use the --gen3D option.

Best regards,
Craig

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Paolo Tosco <paolo.to...@unito.it> wrote:

>  Dear Craig,
>
> I have faced the identical problem with MMFF94, and I have previously
> submitted a similar patch which has already been applied to SVN OpenBabel.
> However, now I realize that my fix had only solved my own problem, but not
> a more general problem connected with formal charges.
> So I have attached a much better patch, which reverts my previous one, and
> instead applies it on the OBMol copy constructor, so that it becomes of
> general use.
>
> To make a long story short, if you patch the current OpenBabel SVN version
> with the attached patch your issue will be solved.
>
> From the OpenBabel root folder:
>
> patch -p0 < patch_17-05-2012.patch
>
> Dear Geoff, would you please apply it also to the SVN trunk so that also
> other OpenBabel users may benefit from that? It also includes a small patch
> on "A T O M   T Y P E S" logging that I had left behind previously.
>
> Best regards,
> Paolo
>
>
> On 05/17/2012 01:44 AM, Craig James wrote:
>
> Here's another problem in 2.3.x that's not in 2.2.x.  I realize these are
> bogus molecules, but it illustrates a serious problem.
>
>   $ echo "[Fe+2][Fe-2].[Fe+2].[Fe-2]" | babel -i smi -o can
>   [Fe-2][Fe+2].[Fe-2].[Fe+2]
>
> Everything looks good -- charges are maintained.  Now  go through the SDF
> format:
>
>   $ echo "[Fe+2][Fe-2].[Fe+2].[Fe-2]" | babel -i smi -o sdf | babel -i sdf
> -o can
>   [Fe+2][Fe].[Fe].[Fe]
>
> Not so good -- charges are dropped. Where is the problem?  It turns out
> the SDF is correct:
>
>  $ echo "[Fe+2][Fe-2].[Fe+2].[Fe-2]" | babel -i smi -o sdf
>
>  OpenBabel05161216052D
>
>   4  1  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0999 V2000
>     0.0000    0.0000    0.0000 Fe  0  2  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>     0.0000    0.0000    0.0000 Fe  0  6  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>     0.0000    0.0000    0.0000 Fe  0  2  0  0  0 15  0  0  0  0  0  0
>     0.0000    0.0000    0.0000 Fe  0  6  0  0  0 15  0  0  0  0  0  0
>   1  2  1  0  0  0  0
> M  CHG  4   1   2   2  -2   3   2   4  -2
> M  END
> $$$$
>
> The charges are all properly marked in the atom block and in the M CHG
> line.  And the "15" in atoms 3 and 4 means "zero valence" which is right.
> Yet the SMILES is wrong.
>
> It turns out this same thing happens if you use atom->SetFormalCharge().
> It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
>
> Note that it works correctly in OpenBabel 2.2.x:
>
>   $ echo "[Fe+2][Fe-2].[Fe+2].[Fe-2]" | babel -i smi -o sdf | babel -i sdf
> -o can
>   [Fe-2].[Fe-2][Fe+2].[Fe+2]
>
> Anyone have any idea what changed, either in the OpenBabel internals or
> the SMILES generator, that would affect the way charges are interpreted?
>
> Craig
>
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