We should support Audubon, Linnaean etc in their process to change the permit parameters. It is not all that easy to buy a fishing permit, so I have been told. I had considered buying one. I would like to know how our supportive organizations are working on this problem. We do pay taxes. I live in Manhattan. Some of us are nervous to ride bicycles in the street with all the traffic. I am told we need to wait until April for the new permit process. I am glad the issue is being brought to a head.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ardith Bondi <ard...@earthlink.net> wrote: > But, isn’t the permit for fishermen only, or is there a permit for birders? > > Ardith > NYC > www.ardithbondi.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 3, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m > willing to buy a permit, there is no plan nor projected date for when they > will start selling the 2022 permit, even though the permit season starts > February 1. The only people who can park legally in the meantime are > existing 2021 permit holders. It seems unjust that one can only park with a > valid permit, which is not available for purchase at this time. > Dawn > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 3, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I know that there is a discussion with State parks to create a birders > permit, perhaps that can also be proposed if they don't want to have > general public using limited parking > > Jennifer > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:12 PM Stanley Greenberg <greenbergph...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible >> to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there >> sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some >> birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway >> management and the local Congressperson, Gergory Meeks. It's absurd that >> people who take (fish) are given a higher priority than people who watch >> (birds). >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:34 PM Trachlar <trach...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my >>> guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily). >>> >>> L. Trachtenberg >>> Ossining NY >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and >>> you need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this >>> unjust regulation. Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this season. >>> It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of Fort >>> Tilden. If there is any action to be taken, we will know about it from the >>> organizations representing us. I know. It is not right. It is also about >>> money. The fishermen they say are complaining they have no parking space. >>> From my experience that is not true. There are always lots of empty spots. >>> I was planning to go, but we cannot. >>> >>> Maybe one member of the group can drop the others off and then if >>> another driver in the car. The original driver comes back, and the second >>> driver gives the first driver a little time on the beach. The rest can go >>> back to the main area, and then later pick up the original driver., >>> complicated, but possible, Bird different areas and take turns. >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Deborah Shapiro <dsni...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags? >>>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill <rjoneill...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the >>>> permit you can be towed. >>>> Bob O’Neill >>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy >>>>> Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in winter, >>>>> but I seem to remember some change in that policy. >>>>> > Thank you, >>>>> > Dawn Hannay >>>>> > >>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>> > -- >>>>> > >>>>> > NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>>>> > >>>>> > ARCHIVES: >>>>> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>>>> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>>>> > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>>>> > >>>>> > Please submit your observations to eBird: >>>>> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>>>> >>>>> ARCHIVES: >>>>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>>>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>>>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>>>> >>>>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>>>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >>>> Welcome and Basics >>>> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm> >>>> Rules and Information >>>> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm> >>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >>>> *Archives:* >>>> The Mail Archive >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >>>> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >>>> ABA <http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01> >>>> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >>>> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >>> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm> >>> Rules and Information >>> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm> >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >>> *Archives:* >>> The Mail Archive >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >>> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >>> ABA <http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01> >>> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >>> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >>> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm> >>> Rules and Information >>> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm> >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >>> *Archives:* >>> The Mail Archive >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >>> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >>> ABA <http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01> >>> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >>> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >>> -- >>> >> -- >> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >> ABA <http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01> >> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >> -- >> > > > -- > Jennifer Wilson-Pines > > -- > *NYSbirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> > ABA <http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01> > *Please submit your observations to **eBird* > <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* > -- > > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
